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    Sep 11, 2012, 07:36 PM
    Getting/Buying a car I need some advice
    Hey everybody it's me again. I need some advice on something that I am about to do. I got my driver’s license on July 21, 2012. Now, two months later I need to find car but here the thing I watched a documentary that talked about the Federal Reserve and how they make their money out of thin air. I typed it up and printed it out. I did some proofreading and I noticed that it had some errors in the document. So on Sunday I corrected and fixed the document then I printed out. I still need to redo one other document, but anyway I decided that out of all the cars dealership in my area which is Randallstown, Maryland I decided to go and get a Nissan the problem is making a dealer and the owner of the dealership believe the information I have, and would let me have the car of my choice. So here are my three questions:

    (1. Which Nissan dealership should I go to the two nearest to me are Len Stoler Nissan in Owings Mills or Antwerpen Security Nissan in Baltimore you can also tell me what dealerships should I go to other than these to dealerships in the Randallstown area that is if you live in Randallstown or Maryland for that matter.

    (2. Should I use the info that I have to my advantage?

    (3. What are some tips in dealing with dealers?
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    Sep 11, 2012, 08:11 PM
    It sounds like you are trying to commit some fraud by altering documents ?

    What and how the Federal Reserve prints money and operates has nothing to do with you buying a car.

    There is nothing you can do legally from a article of how they work.

    You go to the dealer ship that offers you the best interest rate based on your credit and work history. And the one that offers the best deal on a car.

    You get offers from them in writing, and go back and show them to the other dealers to beat the deal on the same type of car
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    Sep 12, 2012, 12:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    It sounds like you are trying to commit some fraud by altering documents ?

    What and how the Federal Reserve prints money and operates has nothing to do with you buying a car.

    There is nothing you can do legally from a artical of how they work.

    You go to the dealer ship that offers you the best interest rate based on your credit and work history. and the one that offers the best deal on a car.

    You get offers from them in writing, and go back and show them to the other dealers to beat the deal on the same type of car
    No I am not committing fraud by altering documents I just typed up what the documentary said that's all. Of course it does, if you don't understand that the money given to you was not only counterfeit but also it is an illegal form of consideration which voids the contract to repay the car loan or mortgage but a judge today wouldn’t allow that because some if not all of them are corrupt now. Without the understanding of the monetary system you would know this. There was also a booklet called modern money mechanics, which explained how the money supply really worked this booklet was also spotlighted in the documentary why don’t you try looking to up. Like I said, it has to do with understanding the monetary system. If you don't understand it what's going to happen is that the car will be repossessed.
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    Sep 12, 2012, 01:03 PM
    I strongly suggest you take with you an older adult male (preferably one who has bought cars in the past). You sound like you have no idea how to buy a car.

    Why Nissan? Have you checked Consumer Reports or Edmund's web site?
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    Sep 12, 2012, 06:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I strongly suggest you take with you an older adult male (preferably one who has bought cars in the past). You sound like you have no idea how to buy a car.

    Why Nissan? Have you checked Consumer Reports or Edmond's web site?
    No I haven’t what are the people saying about Nissan dealerships?
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    Sep 12, 2012, 06:10 PM
    Dealerships? What about the car itself? What year and model were you thinking of? Are you going to have your own mechanic check it out before you buy it?
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    Sep 13, 2012, 02:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Dealerships? What about the car itself? What year and model were you thinking of? Are you going to have your own mechanic check it out before you buy it?
    Need to find a sedan maybe a hunchback like the Versa or the Sertra the year that I am looking for is between 2007 to 2011.
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    Sep 13, 2012, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastanswer7 View Post
    need to find a sedan maybe a hunchback like the Versa or the Sertra the year that I am looking for is between 2007 to 2011.
    Hatchback?

    Sentra?

    Are you going to have your own mechanic check it out before you buy it?
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    Sep 13, 2012, 02:37 PM
    So you want a "hunchback" and you want to scam the dealer out of it by using some kind of typed up document about the Federal Reserve...

    Let us know how it works out for you.

    Oh, and...

    (3. What are some tips in dealing with dealers?
    First and foremost... don't treat them like they're idiots. Second... don't try to scam them with typed up documents. If you came onto my lot and showed me some mystical document that says I should for some reason allow you to have your pick of car for free... I'd show you where the next dealer is down the road.
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    Sep 14, 2012, 01:09 PM
    Who said I was trying to scam them the document modern Money mechanics is a real document also the Documentary that I watched there broke down how the money supply actually operates is called Zeitgeist: Addendum that is if you actually believe it.
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    Sep 14, 2012, 01:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastanswer7 View Post
    who said I was trying to scam them the document modern Money mechanics is a real document also the Documentary that I watched there broke down how the money supply actually operates is called Zeitgeist: Addendum that is if you actually believe it.
    What does this have to do with buying a car?
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    Sep 14, 2012, 02:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastanswer7 View Post
    who said I was trying to scam them the document modern Money mechanics is a real document also the Documentary that I watched there broke down how the money supply actually operates is called Zeitgeist: Addendum that is if you actually believe it.
    And what, exactly, do you figure this is going to do for you in getting a car? How is this supposed to make them just give you your choice of car to drive away?

    Everyone else pays but you'll whip out the mystical document and a car is yours. I guess I am just not understanding what this idea of yours is supposed to accomplish and how.

    I hope nobody around here has this mystical document... I could go out of business!
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    Sep 14, 2012, 06:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by odinn7 View Post
    And what, exactly, do you figure this is going to do for you in getting a car? How is this supposed to make them just give you your choice of car to drive away?

    Everyone else pays but you'll whip out the mystical document and a car is yours. I guess I am just not understanding what this idea of yours is supposed to accomplish and how.

    I hope nobody around here has this mystical document....I could go out of business!
    So you think that modern money mechanics is a mystical document well here's a link to that mystical document. I hope you have mathematical terminology because you are going to have a very hard time reading all forty pages of the booklet.
    http://ia600202.us.archive.org/3/ite...hanics/MMM.pdf
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    Sep 14, 2012, 07:01 PM
    Yeah, yeah... I'm not impressed. I already read it but I still fail to see how showing this to a dealer is going to make him feel the urge to give you a car. This is why I am referring to it as a mystical document because I have to assume it has some crazy power in it if it will make a dealer hand over a car.
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    Sep 14, 2012, 08:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What does this have to do with buying a car?
    Oh, that's simple. Here is an excerpt from Zeitgeist: Addendum. Please read:

    (but if all money is being loaned out by the Federal Reserve and is expanded by commercial banks through loans what is referred to as the “principle” is being created in the money supply so then we’re is the money to pay off all the interest that is charged? Nowhere it doesn’t exist around the rami-fications of this is staggering for the amount of money owed to the banks will always exceed the amount of money available in circulation, that’s why inflation is endless in the economy for new money is always needed to help cover the deficit built into the system caused to pay the interest with is also means is that mathematical default and bankruptcy are literally built into the system and there will be poor pockets of society who will get the short end of the stick an analogy would be a game of musical chairs for once the music stops someone is left out to dry. It transfers all wealth from the individual to the banks for if you are unable to pay for your mortgage or car loan they will take your house or car this is simply enraging that such a default is inevitable due to the fractional reserve practice but also the fact that the money the bank loan to you never legally exist in first place.

    There was a 1969 Minnesota court case which involved a man named Jerome Daly which was challenging the foreclosure of this home by the Bank which gave him the loan to purchase the house, his argument is that the mortgage contract meaning he and the bank put up a legitimate form of property for the exchange in legal terms this is called consideration1 Mr. Daly said that the money did not belong to the bank that it was made of nothing when loan agreement was signed, remember what modern money mechanics said about loans? What we do when we make loans is to accept promissory notes (loan contracts) in exchange for credits (money) reserves are unchanged but the deposit credits constitute new addition to the total deposits of the banking system, In other words the bank is putting up nothing of its own except theoretically liability on paper because the money never came out of their assets as the court case progressed the banks president Mr. Morgan took to the stand and in the judge’s personal memorandum he recalled that “plaintiff (bank’s president) admitted that it, in combination with the Federal Reserve Bank did create its money on bookkeeping and the money and credit on bookkeeping entry Mr. Morgan admitted that no U.S. Law existed which gave him the right to do this a lawful consideration must be present and tendered to support the note. The court finds that there was no lawful consideration and he agrees he also politically added only god can create something out of nothing.” The court denied foreclosure and Daly kept his home the implications of this court decision is immense for when every time you borrow money from a bank either be a mortgage loan or a credit card charge the money given to you is not only counterfeit it is also an illegal of consideration which voids the contract to repay all the bank never had the money to begin with, sadly legal realizations like this are suppressed and ignored and the game perpetual wealth transfer and debt goes on.)
    The sad thing about it Jerome Daly was disbarred and nullified. Not to mention the judge was dead within six months.
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    Sep 14, 2012, 08:23 PM
    Tell me in 25 words (your own words) or less -- what does this have to do with buying a car?
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    Sep 15, 2012, 05:32 AM
    If that is a direct copy of the document you plan to use, it's absolutely loaded with spelling and grammatical mistakes.

    Still, after reading it, I fail to see how this is going to make anyone hand a car over to you.

    I think that if you hand this to someone and expect a car to be given, you are in for a rude awakening. After they are done laughing at you, they will be throwing you off their property.

    And why, after you've been asked by us a few times over, can you not explain how you actually plan to use this information in this mystical document to get a car handed to you? I. for one. Would love to hear this plan... I think WG is interested also.
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    Sep 16, 2012, 04:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Tell me in 25 words (your own words) or less -- what does this have to do with buying a car?
    I don't think I can tell you in twenty-five words or less wonder girl because I already told you if you get a loan from the bank the money that only confit is a "illegal form of consideration." Hence voids the contract to repay.
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    Sep 16, 2012, 04:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastanswer7 View Post
    I don't think I can tell you in twenty-five words or less wonder girl because I already told you if you get a loan from the bank the money that only confit is a "illegal form of consideration." Hence voids the contract to repay.
    Every loan from a bank is illegal?

    Then pay cash for a car. Actually, paying in gold bars would be even better.
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    Sep 16, 2012, 05:17 PM
    I'm done adding to this as it's really going nowhere. You won't answer on how you plan to use this so now it's just a waste of time.

    I would, however, like you to come back and tell us how it went for you when you take this to a dealer and tell them they owe you a car for free. Please come back and tell us how it goes.

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