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    Sep 12, 2012, 02:32 PM
    My dog pee when I hit him
    Hi my name is marshal and I have a germansheberd dog so every time I hit him or he even think I want to hit him he pee on the ground so what should I do to stop that
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    Sep 12, 2012, 02:33 PM
    Stop hitting him or acting like you are going to hit him. That's abuse.
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    Sep 12, 2012, 02:34 PM
    Wondergirl beat me to it...

    Would you pee if someone a lot bigger than you kept coming up and hitting you?
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    Sep 12, 2012, 02:42 PM
    You hit your dog? Do you hit your girlfriend, or your kids?

    A dog doesn't understand anger. A dog doesn't understand English, or whatever language you speak to it. A dog only understands training and praise.

    You are abusing your dog. He pees because he's afraid of you.

    What you're doing is animal abuse.

    If you would like to learn the correct way to treat your dog, I'm more than willing to train you. If not, then I would suggest re-homing the dog to someone with the time and patience to treat this dog humanely.

    Before you get upset about my post, you should know that I really bit my tongue on this one. I'm ready to hit you until you pee your pants, that's how mad I am. But I will help you, because I want to save your dog.

    Let me know if you want to be taught. I'll be here.
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    Sep 12, 2012, 03:24 PM
    Take Alty up on her offer.
    Be willing to listen to what she says and act on it.
    She knows her stuff.
    Your behavior is unacceptable, the dog is afraid of you, that is no way for him to have to live.
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    Sep 12, 2012, 04:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by LadySam View Post
    Take Alty up on her offer.
    Be willing to listen to what she says and act on it.
    She knows her stuff.
    Your behavior is unacceptable, the dog is afraid of you, that is no way for him to have to live.
    Thank Lady Sam.

    I have to say, I read this thread and my head almost exploded. I can't believe that there are still people out there that think that hitting anyone is acceptable. At least a human being understands somewhat, but a dog doesn't. A dog only knows that the person that they love beyond reason, and we all know a dogs love knows no bounds, is hitting them. A dog doesn't understand why. A dog doesn't learn from being hit, no one does, but least of all a dog. A dog only does its best to be a good dog. Hitting doesn't teach the dog anything other than fear.

    I have dogs. I will admit that there are times when I'd really like to give them a slap. The other day Rascal nosed through the garbage, grabbed a soup can that still had soup in it, took it to my bed, and got soup all over my bed. I was not happy.

    What was Rascals punishment? I told him no very firmly, grabbed him by the collar and put him outside, cleaned up the mess, and then, when I let him inside, I stood guard by the garbage can, and every time he went near it, I said NO! Did he learn not to go in the garbage? Not completely. But I took the first step, and he's learning, willing to learn. Fact is, not once did I raise my hand to him, only my voice. And my voice is far more affective than any beating. He knows when I'm mad, he can hear it in my voice, and see it in my body language. That's how dogs communicate.

    Does hitting a dog work? Yes, if you hit your dog whenever he goes in the garbage, or bites you, sooner or later your dog will learn that doing these things will result in a beating. Dogs aren't stupid, they understand cause and effect. To the OP, here's the difference between what I do and what you do.

    My dog; "If I go in the garbage my owner will say no, and no means that I shouldn't do that. She will then put me outside, and I don't want to be away from her. So, if I stop going in the garbage, my owner will be happy, and I'll get to be with her. When I stay away from the garbage I get pets, and a treat. I love it when she pets me. I love being with her."

    OP's dog; "If I go in the garbage my owner will hit me. Hitting hurts, and I don't understand it. I know I don't like it, and it makes me afraid, so I'll stay away from the garbage. I understand that the garbage is bad, and so is my owner. I don't want to be with my owner, I'd rather be outside, far away from him".

    That's the difference.
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    Sep 12, 2012, 09:04 PM
    Oh geez...
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    Sep 12, 2012, 11:12 PM
    If you read their other posts, this is not as strange
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    Sep 13, 2012, 04:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    If you read their other posts, this is not as strange
    Wow... you wasn't kidding.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 03:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MARCHEL1996 View Post
    GOD DAMN ALL
    i didnt use to hit the dog his ex owner used to i think i just bought him weeks ago
    and i hit him gentely like your playing with a friend and i do that like am saying to him dont do that and most of the times he pees when i just rise my hand so he think i wanna hit him
    i will never hit a dog hard so he can feel the pain i will kill someone if i see him do that
    am sorry if u think about it in a bad way but i love my dog
    Why didn't you say that in the first place? Your first post in which you said "every time i hit him" sounds mean and abusive.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 03:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MARCHEL1996 View Post
    I didn't use to hit the dog his ex owner used to I think I just bought him weeks ago
    And I hit him gentely like your playing with a friend and I do that like am saying to him don't do that and most of the times he pees when I just rise my hand so he think I want to hit him
    I will never hit a dog hard so he can feel the pain I will kill someone if I see him do that
    Am sorry if you think about it in a bad way but I love my dog
    These are your words. You didn't say he was abused in his former home and you haven't had him for very long or that you are talking about playing roughly with the animal. You said, "when I hit him..."

    my dog pee when i hit him
    MARCHEL1996 (20 Posts) Asked Sep 12, 2012, 05:32 PM
    Hi my name is marshal and I have a germansheberd dog so every time i hit him or he even think i wanna hit him he pee on the ground so what should I do to stop that
    Are there any other misconceptions that need to be addressed? Why don't we start over and you can give us more background information?

    How old is he? How long have you had him? Does he show any other submissive behaviors such as showing his belly when he thinks you are upset?

    If he has been abused, you are going to have to gain his trust and rebuild his confidence. It starts with not raising your hand around him for awhile or even petting roughly. You might even need to be careful with your tone and loudness of your voice. Teach him commands using positive reinforcement. As he learns what you want and that you won't hurt him, his confidence will grow and he won't pee as much.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 05:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MARCHEL1996 View Post
    GOD DAMN ALL
    i didnt use to hit the dog his ex owner used to i think i just bought him weeks ago
    and i hit him gentely like your playing with a friend and i do that like am saying to him dont do that and most of the times he pees when i just rise my hand so he think i wanna hit him
    i will never hit a dog hard so he can feel the pain i will kill someone if i see him do that
    am sorry if u think about it in a bad way but i love my dog
    We can only go by what you write, and you wrote that you hit your dog. You didn't write that he was abused before you got him, and you didn't write that you don't hit him roughly, you wrote that he pees every time you hit him.

    We can't read minds, we can only base our opinions on what you write. You didn't give all the info, and the info you did give was that you're abusing this dog. Frankly I'm not buying that you don't hit him. I think you're changing your story now because of the outrage we all feel towards animal abusers.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 06:15 PM
    I bet it's somewhat amusing, though, knowing he's been abused, to swing back your hand like you're going to hit him, and watch him cower in fear.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 06:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I bet it's somewhat amusing, though, knowing he's been abused, to swing back your hand like you're going to hit him, and watch him cower in fear.
    Exactly.

    Truth is, now that the OP has added more info, I'm even more angry. He knows this is an abused scared dog, and he still hits him, still raises his hand to him.

    Hopefully the dog will be given a new home, a home with someone that will love him, give him the compassion and understanding he deserves. So far it seems this poor dog has had nothing bad bad luck with two horrible owners. :(
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    Sep 15, 2012, 06:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I bet it's somewhat amusing, though, knowing he's been abused, to swing back your hand like you're going to hit him, and watch him cower in fear.
    Sadly there are some people who would find that amusing. I'll keep my descriptive terms of those people to myself.

    OP I hope your added info is more truthful than I think it is, if this is truly your story, then you have some work to do.
    If not then you need to rehome him, look for a rescue that will take him and work with him, not just some Joe Shmoe off the street who is also going to treat him badly.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 06:55 PM
    Listen my friend has a dog who every time you go next to her or pet her she will pee your pet might of bin abused from the owner before you sooo he/she is scared give it a little time and give your dog time to get used to and relize you will not hurt it and all those other peeps we don't need a hole lecture about it
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    Sep 15, 2012, 06:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Puppyluv2000 View Post
    Listen my friend has a dog who every time u go next to her or pet her she will pee ur pet might of bin abused from the owner before u sooo he/she is scared give it a lil time and give ur dog time to get used to and relize u will not hurt it and all those other peeps we don't need a hole lecture about it
    So you think beating a dog is okay? He has admitted twice that he hits the dog, and that the dog pees when he hits it, or raises his hand to it.

    Your writing is very similar to the OP's.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 06:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Puppyluv2000 View Post
    Listen my friend has a dog who every time u go next to her or pet her she will pee ur pet might of bin abused from the owner before u sooo he/she is scared give it a lil time and give ur dog time to get used to and relize u will not hurt it and all those other peeps we don't need a hole lecture about it
    He said he play-hits the dog and pretends like he is going to hit. What part of that do you not understand?

    And please don't text or your posts will be removed. I nearly removed this one.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 07:13 PM
    other peeps we don't need a hole lecture about it
    Where are you seeing this hole lecture? Not one person mentioned holes, or gave a lecture on them.
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    Sep 15, 2012, 07:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by MARCHEL1996 View Post
    GOD DAMN ALL
    i didnt use to hit the dog his ex owner used to i think i just bought him weeks ago
    and i hit him gentely like your playing with a friend and i do that like am saying to him dont do that and most of the times he pees when i just rise my hand so he think i wanna hit him
    i will never hit a dog hard so he can feel the pain i will kill someone if i see him do that
    am sorry if u think about it in a bad way but i love my dog
    Well, if your dog pees every time you "play" hit him, than the only resolution to him not peeing when you do that, or raise your hand, or move quickly with your hands... is to not do it.

    I understand what "play" hitting a dog is.. just kind of rough-housing with them.. but if you have an abused dog that has had a rough start in life, than that is the types of games you cannot play.

    How about this thread be closed? This person is a troll...

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