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    #141

    Sep 6, 2012, 08:55 PM
    Sorry Tal must be a local thung I don't get the connection
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    Sep 6, 2012, 09:02 PM
    The KKK has thrown off their hoods and become part of the mainstream politics and in the case of Mr. Pierce he has risen to the ranks of higher office in his state of Arizona and become a legitimate racist who can pass laws.

    He did get recalled though by the citizens in his district, but his law is still on the books. SB1070. (Papers please).

    SB 1070 ruling: Judge paves way for immigration-status checks
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    #143

    Sep 7, 2012, 05:08 AM
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    So you acknowledge racism exists but deny it has a language that racists talk to each other about?
    No sir, Biden's use of "clean" and "articulate" was blatantly racist. I'm sure Sen. Byrd used a lot of dog whistles in his day. But I find it hard to picture Bush using code with Condi as his closest advisor but then again, she isn't authentic.

    Sorry my friend, but your straw man refrain is getting to be a symbol of when you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
    It's a hint that you need a new line, I have most of yours memorized.
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    #144

    Sep 7, 2012, 05:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I never implied anything close to that. Clete's answer and the faux outrage over mythical racist code words definitely qualify.
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No sir, Biden's use of "clean" and "articulate" was blatantly racist.
    So which is it, do racist code exist?
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    #145

    Sep 7, 2012, 06:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So which is it, do racist code exist?
    Byrd and Biden aren't Republicans. Figure it out if you can.
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    #146

    Sep 7, 2012, 06:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Byrd and Biden aren't Republicans. Figure it out if you can.
    So republican don't use racist code words but democrats do?
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    #147

    Sep 7, 2012, 11:14 AM
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    So which is it, do racist code exist?
    Yes and its been a effective election tool for the damn near 50 years I have been watching TV. Then they were calling freedom marchers for equality trouble makers and used fire hoses and dogs to prevent them from marching.

    Today's new term is welfare, meaning poor minorities stealing the money from hardworking white people. But no mention of rich guys stealing money from poor people.

    My fellow Texan often remarks that the poor have no more to steal, but they can always cut even more from the safety net, Medicare, and Medicaid, and Mitt Ryan has promised to do just that, to pay for his rich guy raises? Or is it Paul Romney? Whatever, but whatever they can't cut and steal they can always charge it to the deficit, and yes, he has promised that too!

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-215_162-...g-welfare-ads/

    To win the presidency, Romney will need to consolidate nearly all of the undecided, predominantly white working class voters with reservations about Obama's performance. The problem is that the Obama campaign has long possessed a strategy to block Romney's path to victory: Depict Romney as an out-of-touch plutocrat bent on annihilating the middle class. In contrast, Team Romney hasn't really crafted a specific messaging strategy built to appeal to particular demographic groups.
    But the ads alleging that Obama dismantled the welfare work requirement are different -- and potentially more effective. For one, they're targeted to appeal directly to white working class voters, as many others have pointed out. And unlike other attacks on Obama, the welfare advertisement introduces new information that voters probably didn't know -- which can be more effective than other ads that simply stress facts that voters already internalized. (Never mind that this information is new because it isn't true.)
    As we are seeing, most right wing republicans don't care about facts. Hmmmmm!!!! Does that explain why any view other than their own is either a straw argument, or a zip damn lie??

    Are we seeing a pattern here??
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    #148

    Sep 7, 2012, 04:05 PM
    Dude, we're for empowering people to become independent. That's FREEDOM.

    You are for expanding the dependent class. That's BONDAGE.
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    #149

    Sep 7, 2012, 04:17 PM
    That's bull, I am for reigning in and regulating and taxing fairly the very rich who have extracted trillions from the economy, and tax payers. And speaking out against right wing idealogs who favor theocracy and oligarchy.

    And call that freedom! That's BS!!
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    #150

    Sep 7, 2012, 04:43 PM
    Dude, repeating your mantra over and over doesn't make it any more true. Truth is, blacks aren't faring too well under Obama. Black unemployment is at depression era levels. Obama's Buffet tax isn't going to fix that.
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    #151

    Sep 7, 2012, 04:54 PM
    So we should vote for Mitt? Come on guy, how about hiring teachers and fire fighters and police build some schools and bridges and fix a few roads. And we all fare better. . 05% tax on incomes over $350,000, project paid for.
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    #152

    Sep 8, 2012, 08:31 AM
    Dude, I just took a picture of a fancy new roadside rest area in West Memphis, AR being built by stimulus funds... right after crossing the roughest stretch of I-40 on our trip. They should have fixed the road. We can pee at the truck stop across the road or the Arkansas Welcome Center less than 5 miles away.

    Priorities, not pork.
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    #153

    Sep 8, 2012, 09:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Dude, I just took a picture of a fancy new roadside rest area in West Memphis, AR being built by stimulus funds...right after crossing the roughest stretch of I-40 on our trip. They should have fixed the road.
    And who made the decision to build the rest stop and not fix the road?
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    #154

    Sep 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    So we should vote for Mitt? Come on guy, how about hiring teachers and fire fighters and police build some schools and bridges and fix a few roads. And we all fare better. .05% tax on incomes over $350,000, project paid for.
    But here's the rub they ain't going to raise no taxes
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    #155

    Sep 9, 2012, 08:44 AM
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    And who made the decision to build the rest stop and not fix the road?
    I give up, who?
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    #156

    Sep 9, 2012, 08:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I give up, who?
    Your state leaders perhaps? They were given, in good faith, the stimulus money with no parameters.
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    #157

    Sep 9, 2012, 09:08 AM
    And that invalidates my point?
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    #158

    Sep 9, 2012, 09:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And that invalidates my point?
    Where were you when the decision was made on how to spend the money?
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    Sep 9, 2012, 09:26 AM
    How do you know they haven't planned to improve the roads? Being in a flood plain its always being worked on to my memory. That was years before the stimilus was even discussed.
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    Sep 9, 2012, 10:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Where were you when the decision was made on how to spend the money?
    I don't live in Arkansas. So how is my point not valid?

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