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Aug 23, 2012, 03:52 PM
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Welcome to justice and the US legal system. This is how family law works, the opinion or bias of the judge is the law when they rule. Unless you can find some error in the court procedure, just losing and just the bias of the judge has little chance of an appeal.
Example, I was fighting for custody of my two boys. This was about 30 plus years ago, but.
I was making about 40,000 a year ( a lot that many years ago) we proved the mother was having sex for money, even had lists of men, had photos of the inside of the home, with trash, and dirty conditions. We had proof that the chidlren were being left alone for hours at the time with a 9 year old watching the younger kids.
We had proof that she had left bruises on the kids.
Guess what we lost 4 attempts at custody, because her family were important people in the town.
Latter, I got custody in MO but by then they have moved to Texas, Texas would not honor or reconise the MO custody order, so we had to find a way to get the kids out of Texas. Perhaps illegally I guess but once out of Texas the custody order we had was valid
So your story is more the normal than the exception
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Aug 23, 2012, 05:44 PM
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 Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
I've been meaning to get back here - you need a legal theory in order to turn this case the other way around.
Why do you believe it's an incorrect decision?
A Judge who is prejudicial is not a legal defense. I can find all sorts of info on child support, custody, but you need a theory.
I'm not seeing one.
And, yes, without an Attorney I see problems.
I believe you could attempt to transfer the matter to another County - but if you do that and lose you are dead in the water.
First I want to thank you for your help. I know you don’t know me and you don’t have to believe me , but I have been through hell and I thought I go in and tell the truth and that is that, but that did not happen. I guess I am a bit naïve I can also give you the court document number ect…. I truly thank you for the help.
As far as Child support… I don’t understand how the magistrate can make a person pay when they don’t have the money.. He earns (then 4,500.00 more then I did and all of his business deals he makes more) now he earns $3,800.00 more then I do plus the business deals.. I showed a long list of jobs I had applied for. He showed two. I tired to answer and write questions down and I did not answer quick enough for the magistrate and she was yelling at me to answer. I borrowed money from family and friends which I said in court in order to keep my apartment (to show stability). I thought I would find a job quicker then I did… I need to find something that says if you are below poverty and you can’t pay… then there should be some leeway. No one can believe that this is happening and they know him and how much he makes… Then again no one can believe I lost custody..
I will have to find a way to borrow money for a lawyer on the child custody part, well try to . But I don’t want to be blinded as I was before. I think I have grounds for a new judge or new venue. In the year and a half that he has had her, he has hit her (which was reported) there were many signs that something was going on… she had meltdowns when going back to her fathers.. Bad meltdowns… She peed the bed every night I had her. Not like her at all….was left alone all by her self for quite some time. (which was also reported) She is 7. He has pulled her arm so hard it hurt (did not find out about that one until it was to late) He has spanked her so hard repeatedly that in her words it hurts or stings. On and on and on… so I was thinking I could get a new hearing or file again for custody on the fact that my daughter is not safe and will not be safe in his home. There has to be something there.
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Aug 23, 2012, 05:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
Welcome to justice and the US legal system. this is how family law works, the opinion or bias of the judge is the law when they rule. Unless you can find some error in the court procedure, just losing and just the bias of the judge has little chance of an appeal.
Example, I was fighting for custody of my two boys. This was about 30 plus years ago, but.
I was making about 40,000 a year ( a lot that many years ago) we proved the mother was having sex for money, even had lists of men, had photos of the inside of the home, with trash, and dirty conditions. We had proof that the chidlren were being left alone for hours at the time with a 9 year old watching the younger kids.
We had proof that she had left bruises on the kids.
Guess what we lost 4 attempts at custody, because her family were important people in the town.
Latter, I got custody in MO but by then they have moved to Texas, Texas would not honor or reconise the MO custody order, so we had to find a way to get the kids out of Texas. perhaps illegally I guess but once out of Texas the custody order we had was valid
So your story is more the normal than the exception
I am hearing that... the judges need to be held accountable for the bad rulings... If they would look at the cases a bit more then they do and we would not have children who have to go through hell...
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Aug 23, 2012, 06:19 PM
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 Originally Posted by Kelllie
The judge does not think domestic violence matters... The judge could not find anything wrong with me. The judge in the county give childern to the abusers.. ... He hit my child and ....
Why did the judge hit your child?
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Aug 24, 2012, 02:17 AM
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 Originally Posted by AK lawyer
Why did the judge hit your child?
Sorry the judge did not hit the child.. The father hit the child...
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Aug 24, 2012, 05:49 AM
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 Originally Posted by Kelllie
First I want to thank you for your help. I know you don’t know me and you don’t have to believe me , but I have been through hell and I thought I go in and tell the truth and that is that, but that did not happen. I guess I am a bit naive I can also give you the court document number ect…. I truly thank you for the help.
You know, Kellie, I do believe you - I've seen good Judges make bad decisions and the other way around. I have also seen women get emotional in Court, very often justifiably, and have that go against them.
Please give me through the weekend to re-read this and see if I can find something, anything, you can "use," so to speak.
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Aug 24, 2012, 06:46 AM
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 Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
You know, Kellie, I do believe you - I've seen good Judges make bad decisions and the other way around. I have also seen women get emotional in Court, very often justifiably, and have that go against them.
Please give me through the weekend to re-read this and see if I can find something, anything, you can "use," so to speak.
Thank you
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