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    Aug 16, 2012, 09:39 AM
    Unfair judges
    The judge does not think domestic violence matters... The judge could not find anything wrong with me. The judge in the county give childern to the abusers.. Now I have to pay for Child support.. He makes $4,000. More then I do. Pluse his investments and other income. He hit my child and the states attorney will not press charges against him.
    I live in VT and need an attorney to help me.. I have very little money. HELP.
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    Aug 16, 2012, 09:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelllie View Post
    The judge does not think domestic violence matters... The judge could not find anything wrong with me. The judge in the county give childern to the abusers.. Now i have to pay for Child support.. He makes $4,000. more then i do. Pluse his investments and other income. He hit my child and the states attorney will not press charges against him.
    I live in VT and need an attorney to hlep me.. I have very little money. HELP.

    Call the Bar Association in your Country, call the State Bar Association, call any and all law schools in your area.

    You lost custody of your children? The father was abusive to you, to the children? You had proof of the abuse and the Judge ignored it?
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    Aug 21, 2012, 07:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Call the Bar Association in your Country, call the State Bar Association, call any and all law schools in your area.

    You lost custody of your children? The father was abusive to you, to the children? You had proof of the abuse and the Judge ignored it?
    What would law students do? Can they argue a case? I live in VT and there are no law schools in our county. I would like the case moved out of orleans county because of the injustice... But it does not seem that VT cares about woman or children. I have contacted groups, legal aid, lawyers, and no one wants to help. I fear if I do not receive help soon my little girl will be hit again. I am at a loss
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    Aug 21, 2012, 08:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelllie View Post
    What would law students do? can they argue a case? I live in VT and there are no law schools in our county. I would like the case moved out of orleans county because of the injustice... But it does not seem that VT cares about woman or children. I have contacted groups, legal aid, lawyers, and no one wants to help. I fear if i do not receive help soon my little girl will be hit again. I am at a loss

    Of course a student couldn't argue a case. A law school student could do research, look into the circumstances.

    So file a Motion to move the case.

    Why is no one interested in this case?
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    Aug 21, 2012, 09:33 AM
    I hate to say this, but maybe no one wants to help because they don't see a case. What proof do you have of the abuse? Are there police records of the domestic violence?
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    Aug 21, 2012, 09:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Of course a student couldn't argue a case. A law school student could do research, look into the circumstances.

    So file a Motion to move the case.

    Why is no one interested in this case?
    Thank you... I never thought of that before...
    It is a long case. And in vt no one wants to help.. the justice will travel does not travel... Legal aid only help if they know you and there is only one lawyer for the state. I called legal aid to help represent my daughter when her father hit her and they would not.. The pro-bono lawyers they advertise do not do pro-bono work I am told... and the judge is known for not giving child custody to mothers just the abusers... yes every one around knows what this judge does... I can file a complaint alone but it would have been nice if the other woman joined me... I don't blame them because they could loose everything... I am looking up vt statues on child support... Can I take this to the supreme court... If not maybe the news media is my only way... Because I do not want my daughter to end up hating her father and being anger all of her life... I want them to have a good relationship.. but he can't handle his anger...
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    Aug 21, 2012, 10:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelllie View Post
    Thank you... I never thought of that before....
    It is a long case. and in vt no one wants to help.. the justice will travel does not travel... Legal aid only help if they know you and there is only one lawyer for the state. I called legal aid to help represent my daughter when her father hit her and they would not.. The pro-bono lawyers they advertise do not do pro-bono work i am told... and the judge is known for not giving child custody to mothers just the abusers... yes every one around knows what this judge does.... I can file a complaint alone but it would have been nice if the other woman joined me... I don't blame them because they could loose everything.... I am looking up vt statues on child support... Can I take this to the supreme court.... If not maybe the news media is my only way.... Because I do not want my daughter to end up hating her father and being anger all of her life... I want them to have a good relationship.. but he can't handle his anger...


    Have you tried to transfer to another jurisdiction? You would need an Attorney to work your way through the Court syste, looking towward the Supreme Court, if they'd even agree to hear it.

    I have found that women who are afraid do not rush to Court, even to help someone else who is afraid. I both understand and don't understand their concerns.

    What are you researching? There are people here who do great research.
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    Aug 21, 2012, 11:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    I hate to say this, but maybe no one wants to help because they don't see a case. What proof do you have of the abuse? Are there police records of the domestic violence?
    I have so much evidance.. I have pictures of my body all black and blue That a Doctor took of me. I have the Doctors notes on my bruses. I went to my primary Doctor 2 1/2 months later and had to have a scan done on the arm to see if there was internal bleending because it hurt so bad. I have witnesses of what my body looked like the day after... He and his family are well known in newport vt. I am not the only one this judge has done this to... Another lady with vido of her partner beating her lost coustody of her child... The judge over turned another lady's custody and gave custody to the father... the first weekend the little girl came back all brused from sholder to arm. Another lady lost custody to her abuser and he ended up abusing the son... so I am not the only one whom this has happened to... The states attonery will not press charges... I wonered why myself... I found out they went to school together...
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    Aug 21, 2012, 11:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelllie View Post
    I have so much evidance.. I have pictures of my body all black and blue That a Doctor took of me. I have the Doctors notes on my bruses. I went to my primary Doctor 2 1/2 months later and had to have a scan done on the arm to see if there was internal bleending because it hurt so bad. I have witnesses of what my body looked like the day after... He and his family are well known in newport vt. I am not the only one this judge has done this to... Another lady with vido of her partner beating her lost coustody of her child... The judge over turned another lady's custody and gave custody to the father... the first weekend the little girl came back all brused from sholder to arm. Another lady lost custody to her abuser and he ended up abusing the son... so I am not the only one whom this has happened to..... The states attonery will not press charges ... I wonered why myself... I found out they went to school together....
    I asked other state's attonery would have pressed charges and they said they would have
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    Aug 21, 2012, 11:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Have you tried to transfer to another jurisdiction? You would need an Attorney to work your way through the Court syste,, looking towward the Supreme Court, if they'd even agree to hear it.

    I have found that women who are afraid do not rush to Court, even to help someone else who is afraid. I both understand and don't understand their concerns.

    What are you researching? There are people here who do great research.
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    I am out of money... I have spent some were around 22,000 I have clean out my IRA, savings and have nothing left... I just want my little girl safe... and she will not be as long as she is with him.
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    Aug 21, 2012, 11:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelllie View Post
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    I am out of money... i have spent some were around 22,000 i have clean out my IRA, savings and have nothing left... I just want my little girl safe...and she will not be as long as she is with him.

    Oh, I get that - what are you researching? Can we give you the benefit of the doubt and assist you?
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    Aug 21, 2012, 12:11 PM
    [QUOTE=Kelllie;3244330]\
    I am out of money... I have spent some were around 22,000 I have clean out my IRA, savings and have nothing left... I just want my little girl safe... and she will not be as long as she is with him.[/QUOTE

    I am trying to fight the child support I am to pay him...
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    Aug 21, 2012, 12:35 PM
    So you have evidence that you were bruised. But you mentioned nothing about police reports.

    You are fighting child support, when you should be fighting custody.
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    Aug 21, 2012, 12:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Oh, I get that - what are you researching? Can we give you the benefit of the doubt and assist you?

    I think what hurt me from the beginning was the lawyer I had asked for 4,000 a month. I never wanted that.. I plugged into the system of what you might get and it was around 1,000. I was so angry he asked for that amount. All I wanted is what was fair. I had two jobs... cleaning jobs but at least I had two jobs and could work around my daughters pre-school I was looking for a job but in orlean county we have the highest unemployment rate. 3 years later I finely found one.. I could not go back to my old job because that was in burlington and 1 1/2 drive home. And worked crazy hours. (retail Manager) Winter would take me 3 hours on many days. So I think the court thought I was money hungry because of the lawyer I had at the time. When we had 50/50 custody until the trial he paid me $500. No where near the amt that he should have... but OK lived with it... so when I lost custody I was ordered to pay 110. A month. Well I only made 400. A month and had to borrow money from family and friend... ( which will take the rest of my life to pay back) and the court knows this. So they say now by my own admission I make more then what I was before and should pay... since I started my 30 hour job at a bank.. I do not get help from the state and I do not borrow any money from anyone... I am doing this on my own... yes the courts know all of this. So now I have to appeal this and if denied again I then have to go to the supreme court. In the hearing on child support I was my own rep. I was writing down the questions that his lawyer was asking me. The judge was yelling at me to answer. I did but I could not write down the questions fast enough to argue against. So in the end I could not defend myself on the questions she asked. I showed up with a list of job I had applied for and he showed up with 2... he has lots of money and does not need to work. So I have to come up with a good appeal so that if denied again I can go to the supreme court.
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    Aug 22, 2012, 05:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    So you have evidence that you were bruised. But you mentioned nothing about police reports.

    You are fighting child support, when you should be fighting custody.
    Right now the child support is on the table... I am trying to find someone who will help me get custody back.
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    Aug 22, 2012, 05:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Oh, I get that - what are you researching? Can we give you the benefit of the doubt and assist you?
    Thank you I would love all and any help...
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    Aug 23, 2012, 12:20 PM
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    Does anyone know what laws I can look up for child support other then the vt statue.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 12:33 PM
    Do you plan on hiring a lawyer to fight this battle? If you take on a Judge alone you are going to lose.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 03:24 PM
    Yes. All by myself... I don't have the money to pay for a lawyer... and can not find one to do it pro bono.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 03:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelllie View Post
    Yes. all by myself..... I don't have the money to pay for a lawyer... and can not find one to do it pro bono.

    I've been meaning to get back here - you need a legal theory in order to turn this case the other way around.

    Why do you believe it's an incorrect decision?

    A Judge who is prejudicial is not a legal defense. I can find all sorts of info on child support, custody, but you need a theory.

    I'm not seeing one.

    And, yes, without an Attorney I see problems.

    I believe you could attempt to transfer the matter to another County - but if you do that and lose you are dead in the water.

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