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    #21

    Jul 31, 2012, 02:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Rory4488 View Post
    I'm new here and was looking up how to coax a fearful dog and how others have dealt with this common theme-- and ran into your rather insensitive reply to this obviously young girl hoping to help her new dog --maybe she wasn't doing things as we may have, but she was trying and you landed all over her--people like you irk me so I replied-- not realizing as I scrolled down she had worked it out which is great for her and for her 2 dogs...No, I have never been on here before and likely not again --people come for help, suggestions etc...not to be picked apart for silly things such as grammar and punctuation..except people like you who see the flaws first
    ...sad

    Come back after you've posted 39,000 times and criticize anyone you like. Until then - you don't know enough judge anyone.

    I didn't realize you were searching for an answer. I thought you answered a question. For the benefit of people who don't "irk" you, what is your question?

    People like me "irk" you. People like you, judgmental, no background, "irk" me. I'm "insensitive" based on one post. Well, then, that's to be expected because you admit you answer without reading.

    I guess we're even. Not that it matters because you won't be back.

    You did read what the expert, Lucky, said, right? "walk into your house in a very up beat tone and hopefully the dog will follow.. You might have to do that a couple of times."
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    #22

    Jul 31, 2012, 02:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Rory4488 View Post
    I'm new here ...No, I have never been on here before and likely not again --people come for help, suggestions etc...not to be picked apart for silly things such as grammar and punctuation..except people like you who see the flaws first
    ...sad
    And thus you are going to leave the best Q&A site on the Internet because you didn't like what one person said?
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    #23

    Jul 31, 2012, 02:33 PM
    Rory, this is what you wrote to Judy.

    you are just rude and thoughtless
    I always find it amusing when someone comes here, posts once, and calls someone else rude and thoughtless. That in itself is rude and thoughtless. So you don't like it when someone else is, what you consider "rude and thoughtless", but you have no problem, and feel that you're entitled, to be rude and thoughtless right back?

    This is the pot calling the kettle black.
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    Jul 31, 2012, 02:41 PM
    OK so,maybe I was wrong to do as I did, and the other member is just as at fault --it's just people seem so quick to get up on their high horse and judge! This girl was quite distressed and she herself was upset by the useless reply.. and yes, maybe I reacted too hastily too,but as mentioned it's a pet peeve
    OK it's over now right? --we can move on I admit it I'm an idiot with bad grammar and a really scared dog under my bathroom sink.
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    Jul 31, 2012, 02:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    Rory, this is what you wrote to Judy.

    I always find it amusing when someone comes here, posts once, and calls someone else rude and thoughtless. That in itself is rude and thoughtless. So you don't like it when someone else is, what you consider "rude and thoughtless", but you have no problem, and feel that you're entitled, to be rude and thoughtless right back?

    This is the pot calling the kettle black.

    I will add that two specific things come to mind: "wow you're coming down pretty hard on someone who has their heart in the right place ..."

    I worked in animal rescue. I do not right now. I saw and cared for and placed any number of dogs that were owned by people whose "hearts were in the right place" but their brains were somewhere else. Have I seen previously indoor dogs left outside to cope with animals, both pets and wild, heat, cold, dark, rain, no water, no food, no shelter while people tried to "figure it out." Yes, I have. Have I seen dogs badly injured by the "family pets" who are trying to get everyone to be one big happy family? Yes, I have.

    Have all my dogs been rescues? Yes, they have.

    Do your homework first. These aren't stuffed toys. These are living, breathing creatures.

    How to you know the OP is "obviously (a) young girl"? Not that it matters, but how do you know?
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    Jul 31, 2012, 02:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Rory4488 View Post
    OK so,maybe I was wrong to do as I did, and the other member is just as at fault --it's just people seem so quick to get up on their high horse and judge! This girl was quite distressed and she herself was upset by the useless reply ..and yes, maybe I reacted too hastily too,but as mentioned it's a pet peeve
    ok it's over now right? --we can move on I admit it I'm an idiot with bad grammar and a really scared dog under my bathroom sink.
    If course we can move on. I hope you stick around.

    If you do, you'll see why we sometimes post the way we do. If you spend a few hours every day answering dog questions, most of which consist of "My dog has a gaping wound with maggots coming out, should I take her to the vet?" and things like "My dog is in labor, one of the puppies is stuck, but I can't afford a vet. Can I save the puppy? I'm selling them for $2000 each and I need the money. I can bottle feed if the mom dies".

    After a while it gets to you and you shoot first and ask questions later.

    Not saying that's a good thing, but we're all human. We're not robots, and we go to the pet forums because we love animals. Sometimes we just get upset because it's too much.
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    Jul 31, 2012, 02:48 PM
    Rory, dry what I do with feral cats. Sit down on the floor and just be there. Talk to yourself, sing a little bit, say out loud the story of Goldilocks or Hansel & Gretel or recite Bible verses or poetry, and let him get used to your voice, but totally ignore him. Do this for a week and reassess.
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    Jul 31, 2012, 02:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Rory4488 View Post
    OK so,maybe I was wrong to do as I did, and the other member is just as at fault --it's just people seem so quick to get up on their high horse and judge! This girl was quite distressed and she herself was upset by the useless reply ..and yes, maybe I reacted too hastily too,but as mentioned it's a pet peeve
    ok it's over now right? --we can move on I admit it I'm an idiot with bad grammar and a really scared dog under my bathroom sink.

    Laughing - this is an apology? The "other member" is just as at fault? The "useless" reply? Oh, but it's okay because it's a pet peeve.

    Sometimes it's better to remain silent and be thought - oh, never mind.
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    Jul 31, 2012, 02:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I will add that two specific things come to mind: "wow you're coming down pretty hard on someone who has their heart in the right place ..."

    I worked in animal rescue. I do not right now. I saw and cared for and placed any number of dogs that were owned by people whose "hearts were in the right place" but their brains were somewhere else. Have I seen previously indoor dogs left outside to cope with animals, both pets and wild, heat, cold, dark, rain, no water, no food, no shelter while people tried to "figure it out." Yes, I have. Have I seen dogs badly injured by the "family pets" who are trying to get everyone to be one big happy family? Yes, I have.

    Have all my dogs been rescues? Yes, they have.

    Do your homework first. These aren't stuffed toys. These are living, breathing creatures.

    How to you know the OP is "obviously (a) young girl"? Not that it matters, but how do you know?
    Case and point --you are still carrying this on when I laid down my sword... I don't know I just got the impression by the wording etc that she was...
    You are right I guess you get jaded by people doing and saying crazy things as the other members have pointed out Im sorry I offended now can we move on?
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    #30

    Jul 31, 2012, 02:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Rory, dry what I do with feral cats. Sit down on the floor and just be there. Talk to yourself, sing a little bit, say out loud the story of Goldilocks or Hansel & Gretel or recite Bible verses or poetry, and let him get used to your voice, but totally ignore him. Do this for a week and reassess.
    Ive been doing that and touching his head and paws which he likes --I can tell he will eventually be OK, but thanks and he does seem to be responding. I have been taking in dogs as well for a while but this guy is especially terrified so yes --we wait until he makes his move... thank you for the help though.
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    Jul 31, 2012, 03:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Rory4488 View Post
    case and point --you are still carrying this on when I laid down my sword....I don't know I just got the impression by the wording etc that she was ...
    you are right I guess you get jaded by people doing and saying crazy things as the other members have pointed out Im sorry I offended now can we move on?

    - And here's why you drew blood with the sword you have now put down. I was very much upset by the insensitive remark. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm inappropriate.

    Don't call me insensitive.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/blog/a...ee-678813.html
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    #32

    Jul 31, 2012, 03:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Laughing - this is an apology? The "other member" is just as at fault? The "useless" reply? Oh, but it's okay because it's a pet peeve.

    Sometimes it's better to remain silent and be thought - oh, never mind.
    I think you're catching on... never mind... works for me.
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    #33

    Jul 31, 2012, 03:39 PM
    Okay, enough.

    Rory, if you have a dog question then please start a new thread. More people will see it. By posting your question here only the people that have already subscribed (posted) to this thread will see it and answer.

    Also, try to remember that even if you don't like the way someone posts, just because it's not your style, or it's a peeve of yours, doesn't mean you have the right to put that person down. Does it happen? Of course. We're all human. But you really did stick your foot in your mouth coming here and dissing a highly respected member of this site in your very first post here. Not a great way to make friends and influence people.

    Let's all start fresh, and go about what we're here to do, answer questions.

    Clunk, off my soapbox. :)
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    Jul 31, 2012, 03:40 PM
    [QUOTE=Alty;3217652]

    - okay, I was inappropriate. Sorry, Alty - I really am.
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    Jul 31, 2012, 03:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    - And here's why you drew blood with the sword you have now put down. I was very much upset by the insensitive remark. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm inappropriate.

    Don't call me insensitive.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/blog/a...ee-678813.html
    Nope I have to stick with insensitive --especially since you simply won't let this go, Ive apologized and even recognized the error in my ways but you cannot let it go.. for the last time as you so aptly put it... never mind.
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    #36

    Jul 31, 2012, 03:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    - Or your high horse!
    Point taken thanks
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    #37

    Jul 31, 2012, 03:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    - Or your high horse!
    LOL! True enough.

    Just don't want to see this thread get shut down because of hijacking and arguing. You know as well as I do that the mods will likely delete all those posts anyway. Also, Rory obviously isn't going to let it go. Sometimes walking away proves your point far better than beating a dead horse. :)

    I do agree with you, I just don't see any point in arguing with someone that obviously just wants a fight.

    (hugs)
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    #38

    Jul 31, 2012, 03:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    - okay, I was inappropriate. Sorry, Alty - I really am.
    No, I didn't take it in a bad way. You don't need to apologize. I also agree. Dog knows I have no right to say anything, I've fought with people on this site too. Many times. It's easier to give advice than it is to take it. :)

    Judy, you know you can tell me whatever is on your mind. If you don't like what I've posted, then tell me. You and I have been there and back, and I think we know each other well enough to know that we don't always have to agree, but we can disagree respectfully. We learned that the hard way, but fact is, we did learn it. :)
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    Jul 31, 2012, 03:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    LOL! True enough.

    Just don't want to see this thread get shut down because of hijacking and arguing. You know as well as I do that the mods will likely delete all those posts anyway. Also, Rory obviously isn't going to let it go. Sometimes walking away proves your point far better than beating a dead horse. :)

    I do agree with you, I just don't see any point in arguing with someone that obviously just wants a fight.

    (hugs)
    I didn't come to fight, however, if not backing down from someone who thinks they are the only one in the right then I guess it's a fight... I was insulted as well-- I was accused of having poor grammar etc by this "highly respected" member --to me that type of low digging is not the makings of a truly good person in any forum. Its darned insensitive actually.
    I said my piece I tried to make peace and it just didn't fly with Miss Judy-- so as you so well recommended Alta-- Ill not post again --My apologies to the other members for having to witness this mess --it was and is my fault too I was acting foolish to stick up for someone who seemed helpless... hmmm... ok Im done.
    Keep saving the animals ladies and gentlemen that's what's important in the end
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    Jul 31, 2012, 04:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Rory4488 View Post
    I was accused of having poor grammar etc by this "highly respected" member
    No, you weren't. She asked you to add punctuation to your posts so they would be easier to read. And I agree. And I am the site editor and a mod.

    And if one person on this site bothers you, stick around until the evening. Twenty more are going to come out of the woodwork. Being on here is sort of like real life, Some people will annoy you and some people will agree with you. You learn to ignore those who annoy you, or your blood pressure goes up.

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