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    Jul 27, 2012, 10:42 AM
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    Hello:

    So far, it's not going well... He's dufus II.

    He's going to Poland soon.. Is he going to tell them a polish joke?

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    Jul 27, 2012, 11:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    So far, it's not going well... He's dufus II.

    He's going to Poland soon.. Is he gonna tell them a polish joke??

    excon
    Yeah that was an unforced error. Of course the hypocites in London are acting as if he insulted them by returning a bust of Churchill or gave thoughtless gifts to their queen .
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    Jul 27, 2012, 11:28 AM
    An example of the power of the incumbency was on display today. The President (in tal's words ) has peed on the head of Israel since he was sworn in .

    But today ;on the eve of the Romney visit to Israel ; the President made a big demonstration of signing into law ,a military aid bill for Israel.

    The Israelis will see through this demonstration. But it wasn't meant for their benefit . It was to shore up his Jewish support in Florida.
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    Jul 27, 2012, 11:28 AM
    He really doesn't like them over there:

    He wrote this in his 2010 book No Apology:

    England [sic] is just a small island. Its roads and houses are small. With few exceptions, it doesn't make things that people in the rest of the world want to buy.
    In 2007:
    The United States is in danger of becoming a "second-tier" nation like Britain and other European countries if Hillary Clinton wins the White House
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    Jul 27, 2012, 11:43 AM
    He was right in his book. When you read the rest of the paragraph it makes perfect sense.

    And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions. Yet only two lifetimes ago, Britain ruled the largest and wealthiest empire in the history of humankind. Britain controlled a quarter of the earth's land and a quarter of the earth's population.
    That empire was built on the Navy ;a Navy the Brits cannot sustain at levels beyond a '2nd tier power. Today they would have problems defending the Falklands.
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    Jul 27, 2012, 11:50 AM
    I'm sure the UK is loving being called second-tier.
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    Jul 27, 2012, 12:03 PM
    Good thing Londoners don't vote in our election. Or do they? You guys let anyone vote.
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    Jul 27, 2012, 12:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I'm sure the UK is loving being called second-tier.
    Just like Salt Lake City loves being called "the middle of nowhere." Best retort of the whole affair from the SLC mayor's office:

    "(David Cameron) can stop by any time. We'd love to have him and are happy to send a map so he doesn't run into any trouble locating the middle of nowhere." — Spokesperson For Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker
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    Jul 27, 2012, 03:07 PM
    When you have a mouth and half a brain you just have to use both. Romney demonstrated both in Britain and was told appropriately how small his efforts had been. Let's hope he doesn't tell the Polish people how wonderful Dachau was, or let Isreal know his religious beliefs
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    Jul 27, 2012, 04:16 PM
    Or maybe he can go to Berlin and have rally at the Siegessaule column . Oh wait Obama beat him to it .
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    Jul 27, 2012, 05:00 PM
    I have a sense Tom that Obama may have beat him to other things and may prevail particularly if Romney continues his give me's.

    Romney wants to elevate the US at the expense of others, rather he should put his expertise to work elevating the US from its second string economic status and take a lesson from the British experience. When you overstretch your resources your inadequacies will one day become obvious
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    Jul 28, 2012, 02:57 AM
    His statement ,although clumbsy ,was not worthy of the over-reaction .All he did was point out some concerns that the Brit press has reported on since they won the bid to hold the games. Perhaps when they stop their over the top bloviating they may consider that Romney had tremendous success managing an Olympics .

    When he was called on the bail out the Salt Lake City games the project was a corrupt, bloated, and overbudget, organization that was $400 million in the hole .There were crimes that resulted in jail time for some of the organizers .He had exactly the same security concerns as the Brits have. His Olympics was in the wake of the 9-11 attack ,and there was not a whole lot of extra money to devote to security

    Still ,the games were held without a hitch .He transformed it into a spectacular success with a $100 million surplus.

    So unless the Brits are over sensitive panty waists ,their explosive reaction to his comments are way over the top.

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    Jul 28, 2012, 04:05 AM
    You don't need to defend him because he is a republican, if Obama had said it you would have criticised him. There is a vast difference between the British press commenting on British shortcomings and an american wannabee doing the same to bolster his own ego and his political position..

    The Brits have done a marvelous job with the opening ceremony, and guess what? They didn't need Romney's advice. I predict they will find it will all turn out okay
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    Jul 28, 2012, 04:39 AM
    The Brits have done a marvelous job with the opening ceremony
    Except for the James Bond scene with the Queen ,the whole ceremony was a snoozer. They could've spared us watching workers strip sod off the field at least .

    But I'll be fair. The uniforms the US team wore was lame! How they allowed Ralph Lauren to dress our athletes in French berets ,and too large Polo logos on their suits is beyond me.
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    Jul 28, 2012, 05:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    you don't need to defend him because he is a republican, if Obama had said it you would have critised him. There is a vast difference between the British press commenting on British shortcomings and an american wannabee doing the same to bolster his own ego and his political position..

    The Brits have done a marvelous job with the opening cerimony, and guess what? they didn't need Romney's advice. I predict they will find it will all turn out okay
    Considering his social gafs I think it is apropos that the Brits call him 'mitt the twit'. I can't wait to hear what happens in Isreal!
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    Jul 28, 2012, 05:59 AM
    I think Mitt is shambolic
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    Jul 29, 2012, 03:13 AM
    Then again ;maybe Romney has a point. They weren't ready for the games .
    London 2012 Olympics: Empty seats on the opening day prompts investigation - Telegraph
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    Jul 29, 2012, 09:21 AM
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    Jul 29, 2012, 09:34 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    Point or not, it's NOT diplomatic to criticize a country you're about to visit...

    To ME, it's more important to see how Romney operates on the world stage. So far, he's failed, and he didn't bow to anybody either.

    excon
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    Jul 29, 2012, 09:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Except for the James Bond scene with the Queen ,the whole ceremony was a snoozer. They could've spared us watching workers strip sod off the field at least.
    Roger Ebert caught all the allusions and droll humor in it and said it was a "gob smacker"!

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