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    #21

    Jun 1, 2012, 09:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    This is too funny. I've never seen such an over-sensitive emotional reaction to a shadow before.
    I'm only over-sensitive to your continued gross misrepresentations and personal insults. As to the issue at hand, this inexcusable display of arrogance is deserving of much more scorn than I can muster.

    Can't imagine living my life being offended by everything everyday.
    You must have missed the Bush years.
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    #22

    Jun 1, 2012, 09:23 AM
    You think those are personal insults? That's exactly what I'm talking about! LOL!

    NOBODY forgets about the Bush years.
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    Jun 1, 2012, 09:26 AM
    What you are looking at is the reflection of Narcissus.
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    #24

    Jun 1, 2012, 09:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The righties revert to there true hateful selves after Memorial Day, and start talking crazy about things they see as an affront to patriotism, or their version of it. Best let them enjoy their coffee together and get their hate out of them.
    Hateful? That's a pretty strong, misguided word for simply taking to task an administration that managed once again to make a day for honoring others about Obama. Again, this was a the about honoring fallen heroes (and not the zombies Obama saw previously), this is an insult to their memory. If Bush had done it you'd be all over his a$$ about it. Maybe you should just accept that I'm once again going to obliterate the competition in baseball and chill with the "hate" crap.
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    #25

    Jun 1, 2012, 09:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You think those are personal insults? That's exactly what I'm talking about! LOL!.
    Are you incapable of understanding a sentence or do your knees just jerk that spasmodically every time you see a post of mine?
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    #26

    Jun 1, 2012, 09:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    this is an insult to their memory.
    Ok, what should Obama have done in order for you to say that he has honoured the fallen soldiers?
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    #27

    Jun 1, 2012, 09:41 AM
    His speech was sufficient .
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    #28

    Jun 1, 2012, 09:58 AM
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    Ok, what should Obama have done in order for you to say that he has honoured the fallen soldiers?
    Exactly what tom said. Plus, he could have let the families of those honoring their family whose names are etched on the wall honor them instead of denying them access to the wall for the first time on Memorial Day ever - for 7 long hours.

    This is what it should have looked like:



    Not this:

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    #29

    Jun 1, 2012, 10:29 AM
    You'd need to get release forms from all those people in order to post the image on the website. I know, I have to do shoots like that sometimes.

    So just the speech would have satisfied all conservatives? Good to know actually.
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    Jun 1, 2012, 10:36 AM
    I don't think the Wall was the appropriate place .I think Arlington National Cemetery is better suited for a Memorial Day address because it can accommodate an audience.

    The cynic in me says that he picked the Wall because Vietnam Vets are a large voting block. If you heard or read the speech ,more time was devoted to the Veterans than memorializing the dead.

    Still I think it was one of his better addresses as President .
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    #31

    Jun 1, 2012, 11:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You'd need to get release forms from all those people in order to post the image on the website. I know, I have to do shoots like that sometimes.
    I don't think so, it's a public place, there is no expectation of privacy and the photo is not being sold.

    So just the speech would have satisfied all conservatives? Good to know actually.
    Now you're asking (and answering) a different question.
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    #32

    Jun 1, 2012, 06:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    This is too funny. I've never seen such an over-sensitive emotional reaction to a shadow before. Can't imagine living my life being offended by everything everyday.
    Are you saying your not a democrat ?
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    #33

    Jun 1, 2012, 07:29 PM
    I guess since you guys can't blame him for Viet Nam, you can spit venom at a picture that was taken at the memorial. You are grasping at straws here. Funny how you can take a picture and say its unpatriotic, and then tell me to chill with the hate. OUTRAGEOUS and self serving, and another example of how righties view the world.

    Don't take much to set you guys up for self righteous indignation.
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    #34

    Jun 2, 2012, 02:25 AM
    And Obama found an issue he can't blame Bush for .

    I did not call him unpatriotic . I called him egotistical. This fits in very well with the OP . The President can't help himself .He has to insert himself into everything be it the Vietnam Memorial Wall ,or the biographies of former Presidents .

    Steve's point is well taken . The Wall is arguably the most visited site on the National Mall ;even more so on Memorial Day where for many families ,the visit is an annual pilgrimage ;for others perhaps, his speech caused them to miss a once in a lifetime chance to pay their respects to loved ones as well as comrades who didn't make it home alive. It is a disgrace that they were denied access to the wall for up to 7 hours.

    He was there to launch The Vietnam 50th Anniversary Commemoration Program. There was no need to do it on Memorial Day.
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    Jun 2, 2012, 04:47 AM
    Photo op Tom photo op, have you ever known a politician who could forego one
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    #36

    Jun 2, 2012, 05:15 AM
    This one is not in good taste. So far it is being mentioned in this one OP . Let's see if it lasts for years in multiple references, like the Bush 'Mission Accomplished' one did.
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    #37

    Jun 2, 2012, 05:16 AM
    Yeah Viet Nam heroes should have their own day, not the day that other fallen vets are honored right?
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    #38

    Jun 2, 2012, 06:38 AM
    Why they are all fallen, don't exclude them again
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    #39

    Jun 4, 2012, 06:21 AM
    I never called him unpatriotic either, I said he was narcissistic. This image was "OUTRAGEOUS and self serving," and another example of how lefties view themselves.
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    #40

    Jun 4, 2012, 06:22 AM
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    Are you saying your not a democrat ?
    He's a Canuck.

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