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    Apr 1, 2012, 05:41 AM
    I am 5-8 190 pounds 44 years old I drank a fith on Tuesday then on Thursday
    I drank a pint both 40 proof vodka I stopped at around 3:00pm on Thursday today is Sunday its 7:30 is it out of my urine

    They sent my urine to a lab will alcohol show up in the urin test I drank a fith of vodka on Wednesday 28 th then I drank a pint on Thursday 29th I was done drinking at 3:00pm I am 5-8 190 pounds 44 years old also the vodka was 80 proof I took the test Sunday the 1st at 7:30
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    Apr 2, 2012, 05:27 PM
    How long does it take for alcohol to get out of the system?
    Ok I drank thusday morning stopped before noon about a fith any way I drank gallons of water Friday and Saturday Sunday morning they had I surprise urine test then they sent it to the lab am I in trouble
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    Apr 23, 2012, 10:06 AM
    If water is added to your urine, will it test positive for alcohol?
    Add water to the cup then pee in it a little sent to a lab will it come back positive for alcohol
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    Apr 23, 2012, 10:19 AM
    It will fail because of the water added to it, they will see you voided the test.
    ** that is worst normally than failing the test on your own. Not only do you fail but you committed fraud in doing so
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    Apr 23, 2012, 10:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    it will fail because of the water added to it, they will see you voided the test.
    ** that is worst normally than failing the test on your own. Not only do you fail but you committed fraud in doing so
    what do you mean it will fail there was someone right there watching me they never saw the water will it test positive for alcohol
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    Apr 23, 2012, 10:31 AM
    It will test that there was water added. Water is not urine. Temp of water is not the same, adding water will just automatically fail the test and show that you committed a fraud taking the test.
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    Apr 23, 2012, 10:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    It will test that there was water added. water is not urine. Temp of water is not the same, adding water will just automaticly fail the test and show that you committed a fraud taking the test.
    by the time it got to the lab it was well mixed up plus they mailed it to the lab fedx
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    Apr 23, 2012, 11:17 AM
    Does not work like that, water is still water, water is not urine and it will show up.
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    Apr 23, 2012, 11:18 AM
    And the water does not dilute the urine to keep the alcohol from showing up. It's only a mixture, like mixing applesauce and peanut butter. Both can be separated out again.
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    Apr 23, 2012, 11:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by danielwasher View Post
    by the time it got to the lab it was well mixed up plus they mailed it to the lab fedx

    If you want to argue, do that with your friends. If you want legal advice: water will test when the sample is run. You cannot mix urine and water without it showing up in the test results. The test will show what has passed through your kidneys and what has not.

    And on a sarcastic note - you don't think anyone has ever thought of this before? The joke is "why is his urine blue?" "Because he didn't remove the toilet deodorizer before he scooped the toilet water into the test tube."
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    Apr 23, 2012, 12:29 PM
    A urine test which is half water checking for alcohol sent by fedx to the lab
    Took a urine test was able to fill the container with some water and some urine it was then sent to the lab by fedx well it show positive for alcohol and how long will it take before I find out
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    Apr 23, 2012, 02:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    If you want to argue, do that with your friends. If you want legal advice: water will test when the sample is run. You cannot mix urine and water without it showing up in the test results. The test will show what has passed through your kidneys and what has not.

    And on a sarcastic note - you don't think anyone has ever thought of this before? The joke is "why is his urine blue?" "Because he didn't remove the toilet deodorizer before he scooped the toilet water into the test tube."
    OK thank you
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    Apr 23, 2012, 02:27 PM
    Are you indicating that you added water to the sample? If so how much in proportion to the urine would you estimate?

    ADDED: Any substantial addition of water would not remove the alcohol but would dilute it. Dilution is automatically tested for by checking specific gravity and creatinine.

    Your sample will be returned as untestable, diluted or possibly substituted based on the two factors noted above.

    The sample should have been checked for temperature at point of collection. Did no one check that?
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    Apr 23, 2012, 02:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by DrBill100 View Post
    Are you indicating that you added water to the sample? If so how much in proportion to the urine would you estimate?
    1/4 water
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    Apr 23, 2012, 02:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by danielwasher View Post
    1/4 water
    It will certainly be dilute and rejected.

    Can't imagine that much water not dropping temperature below acceptable range at point of collection.
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    Apr 23, 2012, 02:48 PM
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    Apr 23, 2012, 02:59 PM
    Usually not but on request it can be tested and then returned as positive but dilute or negative but dilute (with that much water). Either way the results should be negated.

    How much alcohol did you drink?

    This is an amazing story. Someone watching yet able to add water, no temperature check, the coloration of the urine should have been checked. The sample should have been rejected on-site.

    Was this a collection center... who's doing this test.
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    Apr 23, 2012, 03:14 PM
    Thank you Dr Bill, he was not believing me in the other post. He just knew that water diluted it, I told him adding water would fail the test ( show up that water was added) and be worst from the PO side than just failing the test since it showed he cheated the test.

    Also he does not realise there is a safe guard at the point of testing that will indicate if the temp is not correct for urine in the body

    I will say that at many collection points the person watching feels self cosciense about watching and often do not watch as close as they should.

    Most people are smart enough to know that diluting it does not work and try to use someone else's urine which is why the temp issue is always watched.
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    Apr 23, 2012, 03:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Thank you Dr Bill, he was not believing me in the other post. He just knew that water diluted it, I told him adding water would fail the test ( show up that water was added) and be worst from the PO side than just failing the test since it showed he cheated the test.

    Also he does not realise there is a safe guard at the point of testing that will indicate if the temp is not correct for urine in the body

    I will say that at many collection points the person watching feels self cosciense about watching and often do not watch as close as they should.

    Most people are smart enough to know that diluting it does not work and try to use someone elses urine which is why the temp issue is always watched.
    I never said I didn't believe you I even thanked you he contacted me with his appionin thank you both

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