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speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2012, 06:31 AM

Just another red herring. I can do this all day but I'd rather get back to the subject.

Also, poisoning the well again.

NeedKarma · Apr 18, 2012, 06:33 AM

These Current Event threads always go off in varying directions. Just waiting for the baseball pool chats.
I've got a very large website deployment coming up so have at 'er.

speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2012, 06:43 AM

It's not a pool, it's a fantasy league and you'd be welcome to join.

excon · Apr 18, 2012, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

True or false? Who's really bashing who?

Hello wingers:

Looks to me like Ted Nugent is bashing everybody. I thought you guys were the ones who're going to be nice.. No, huh?

excon

speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2012, 07:06 AM

I never said the right is always nice, but good luck getting Ted to shut up. I certainly don't think he said anything worthy of a Secret Service visit.

talaniman · Apr 18, 2012, 07:56 AM

Sadly I think some nut may take his BS seriously, like the NUT who killed those abortion doctors, empowered by BS rhetoric like this. I think you are supposed to keep a serious eye on somebody who shoots his mouth off about death, dying, killing, and chopping some ones head off. Ignore these fools is what makes them dangerous. Left or right makes no difference.

speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2012, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Sadly I think some nut may take his BS seriously, like the NUT who killed those abortion doctors, empowered by BS rhetoric like this. I think you are supposed to keep a serious eye on somebody who shoots his mouth off about death, dying, killing, and chopping some ones head off. Ignore these fools is what makes them dangerous. Left or right makes no difference.

Oh brother, can we get a little more dramatic?

talaniman · Apr 18, 2012, 08:56 AM

Well ignore it, and disregard the concerns of any ideas that don't line up with your own like you usually do. Isolate yourself in your own ideology all you want, just don't tell me what I do or how I do it, and expect any sympathy because I have none. But when my side succeeds, so will you!

speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2012, 09:06 AM

Dude, even the article states it "could also be interpreted as a threat to kill himself, if you ask us." Ted is not stupid, he knows you can't threaten the president and we have better things to do than speculate on what he meant. Howard Dean was quite clear on the other hand.

P.S. I am not better off than I was 4 years ago and if your side "succeeds" we're in for much, much worse.

talaniman · Apr 18, 2012, 11:18 AM

I am, since those tax cuts have helped a lot! What didn't you get yours?

tomder55 · Apr 18, 2012, 11:22 AM

Oh boy!! The government returns some of the money they shouldn't have taken in the 1st place and you think they are giving you something...

NeedKarma · Apr 18, 2012, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

oh boy !!! the government returns some of the money they shouldn't have taken in the 1st place and you think they are giving you something ...

Imagine is Bush had done it, you'd be singing a different for sure.

tomder55 · Apr 18, 2012, 11:51 AM

I was in favor of a flat tax during the Bush years ;as I am today.

TUT317 · Apr 18, 2012, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Dude, even the article states it "could also be interpreted as a threat to kill himself, if you ask us." Ted is not stupid, he knows you can't threaten the president and we have better things to do than speculate on what he meant. Howard Dean was quite clear on the other hand.
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Makes no difference.
It can be taken three possible ways.
One of those ways constitutes a credible threat.

Tut

cdad · Apr 18, 2012, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Dude, even the article states it "could also be interpreted as a threat to kill himself, if you ask us." Ted is not stupid, he knows you can't threaten the president and we have better things to do than speculate on what he meant. Howard Dean was quite clear on the other hand.

P.S. I am not better off than I was 4 years ago and if your side "succeeds" we're in for much, much worse.

I have an idea that I know what he meant. And there are many that agree with him. He is worried about the position that this government has been taking against gun owners. Ted is adament about the second amendment and he enjoys the freedoms his fame can bring him. He lives in the shadows of his NRA predisessor Charlton Heston. A great and longtime spokesperson for the NRA at large.

talaniman · Apr 18, 2012, 06:11 PM

What IS the position of the government that scares you 2nd amendment warriors?

cdad · Apr 18, 2012, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

What IS the position of the government that scares you 2nd amendment warriors?

When the government wants to take all guns from private hands. Then everyone should be worried. It's the second amendment that protects all the others.

talaniman · Apr 18, 2012, 06:29 PM

Why do you fear that's going to happen? When?

tomder55 · Apr 18, 2012, 07:03 PM

"shall not be infringed " should be unambiguous enough... even for the "living breathing " crowd .

tomder55 · Apr 18, 2012, 07:09 PM

Federalist . 28 ,Hamilton states that when a government betrays the people by becoming tyrannical, the people have no choice but to exercise their right of self defense ,against the government
Federalist 29,Hamilton explained that an armed citizenry was the best and only real defense against a standing army that becomes oppressive.
Federalist 46,Madison states that ultimate authority resides in the people, and that if the federal government got too powerful and overstepped its authority, then the people had the right to armed resistance.