[talaniman]

Tal, where are your priorities? You're worried about whether or not the victim has a baby above protecting them from predators? Really?

The Predators took them in for the abortion! What are you not getting here?

Come on we talk in generalities here. Real life is not as simple or broadbrushed as you paint it. I have agreed with the reporting of crime and abuse, I do not agree with reporting every abortion as a crime, or an abuse.

Yet you, if they report a crime would force them to have the baby anyway, so what's your point? You get the perp, but NOT help the victim?

[NeedKarma]

The Predators took them in for the abortion! What are you not getting here?

Well it didn't happen like that at all, that's why we don't get it:

The Phoenix case began in 1998 when the girl, whose name has been withheld by AP, had an abortion at a Planned Parenthood clinic accompanied by her 23-year-old foster brother, with whom she was having a sexual relationship.

Gault had allegedly hidden a runaway girl, now 15, in the house he shared, Hugh Hefner-style, with two other girlfriends (ages 26 and 40 and also charged with crimes arising from the incident). He had gotten the teenager pregnant and procured an abortion for her on May 1 at a Planned Parenthood clinic in West Hartford.

Clearly these are not normal cases. They certainly messed up on notification of parents but to say this is normal preditory operations is certainly not correct.

[speechlesstx]

What's my point? Anyone that would neglect to report suspected sexual abuse of a child is the scum of the earth.

[NeedKarma]

As tom said feel free not to respond to my posts.

Thanks but I'll watch them more closely now to correct them.

[NeedKarma]

What's my point? Anyone that would neglect to report suspected sexual abuse of a child is the scum of the earth.

Like the catholic church for example?

[speechlesstx]

Thanks but I'll watch them more closely now to correct them.

Bahahahahahaha!

[speechlesstx]

Like the catholic church for example?

And your point is??

[NeedKarma]

And your point is????

I haven't seen a thread of yours (or of conservatives) calling the catholic church the scum of the earth. And they have been the cause of far more cases of sexual abuses of children that PP ever will.

[speechlesstx]

I haven't seen a thread of yours (or of conservatives) calling the catholic church the scum of the earth.

I believe one would call that an argument from ignorance.

And they have been the cause of far more cases of sexual abuses of children that PP ever will.

I believe this is called wishful thinking.

So far you've managed nothing but fallacies in attempting to "correct" me.

[NeedKarma]

I believe one would call that an argument from ignorance.

Please explain.

I believe this is called wishful thinking.

We can start comparing numbers if you wish.

So far you've managed nothing but fallacies in attempting to "correct" me.

I'm not certain you understand what a fallacious argument is.

[speechlesstx]

Please explain.

My pleasure. You said "I haven't seen a thread of yours (or of conservatives) calling the catholic church the scum of the earth."

Your ignorance of what we've said on the subject is a poor argument, not to mention a fallacy.

We can start comparing numbers if you wish.

Please do.

I'm not certain you understand what a fallacious argument is.

LOL, I just pointed out two of yours.

[NeedKarma]

My pleasure. You said "I haven't seen a thread of yours (or of conservatives) calling the catholic church the scum of the earth."

Your ignorance of what we've said on the subject is a poor argument, not to mention a fallacy.

Do you have two different sets of standards?
Do you still refer to yourself as a catholic?

[speechlesstx]

Do you have two different sets of standards?

Red Herring.

Do you still refer to yourself as a catholic?

I have never been a Catholic.

[tomder55]

I don't believe Steve ever claimed to be catholic . As for me... I wrote of my past participation in a group called Voice of the Faithful . I was on board with their agenda until they expanded it to a radical agenda beyond accountablility for the sex abuse scandals .

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ch-326891.html
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ch-461571.html

[speechlesstx]

For the record I have stated I am a Baptist to Needkarma himself after a similar diversion. But that was an irrelevant question to begin with.

[NeedKarma]

I guess we'll give the priests a pass then. Understood.

[speechlesstx]

I guess we'll give the priests a pass then. Understood.

I believe they call that fallacy "poisoning the well." I think that's your favorite.

[NeedKarma]

I believe they call that fallacy "poisoning the well." I think that's your favorite.

Poisoning the well - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nope, not even close; but it is in fact a favorite tactic of pretty much all threads in the Current Events board.

[speechlesstx]

Um yes, I am exactly right and so far you're batting .000 in your "corrections." Time to move on.

[NeedKarma]

Typical right-wing tactic: repeating a falsehood over and over to try to make it a fact.