[Wondergirl]

They didn't doctor the tape. They did skip a few lines when reporting what the tape had said.

[tomder55]

Which is the equivalent of doctoring .It complete altered the sequence to make it appear that Zimmerman made the observation that Martin was a Black on his own, without prompting .

NBC changed the tape to comply with the narrative they were creating . It's a fraud .

[Wondergirl]

The tape wasn't changed. They just skipped over part of the tape. And yes, that was Not A Good Thing.

[tomder55]

"During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made in the production process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers,"

That is the lame lie that NBC is issuing as an apology . They should just admit it was an intentional attempt to paint Zimmerman as a racist. In many ways it shaped the way the story has unfolded.

This is how the Today show 1st aired the abridged tape :
"This guy looks like he's up to no good … he looks black."

This is the actual transcript :
"This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."

The 911 officer responded saying, "OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?"

"He looks black,"

Sorry NBC... you don't get a pass . 'An error made in the production process '?? Give me a break!! The State prosecutor should investigate possible evidence tampering... Eric Holder should investigate the instigation of racial tensions by NBC . Zimmerman should consider a defamation lawsuit.

[talaniman]

Imagine that by ABC! The F*******g G******ns! They always get away!

Just like the five he called in before.

[tomder55]

Well you can hear what you want to hear... I hear the word 'goons'. You hear the word 'coons' . Makes a big difference doesn't it ? Given that his volunteer work involves educating black children ;I tend to believe he used the word 'goons' .

[excon]

Hello again:

You're ALL missing the point.. It's NOT about Trayvon, Zimmerman, or the media. It's about the racist COPS and the "shoot first and ask questions later", law.

Yeah, I know what you think about ME mentioning race... But, I'd like a simple answer to the simplest of questions... If Trayvon had been white, and Zimmerman black, do you think we would have the same outcome?

We would NOT, and THAT'S the issue..

excon

[tomder55]

Well ;we now know that the cops wanted to book him.So the charge that they were racist is unfounded .

the police went to the state attorney with a capias request, meaning: 'We're through with our investigation and here it is for you.' The state attorney impaneled a grand jury, but before anything else could be done, the governor stepped in and asked us to pick it up in mid-stream.”

A capias is a request for charges to be filed.

Sanford cops wanted to charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case

There may be issues about the law. But ,IF the narrative is true ;that Zimmerman was on the ground getting his head slammed into the concrete ;then with or without the law , he was justified to use the gun for self defense.

[excon]

Well ;we now know that the cops wanted to book him.So the charge that they were racist is unfounded .

Hello again, tom:

Nice deflection... But, no cigar... We know ONE cop wanted to prosecute. We don't know what OTHER cops wanted, INCLUDING the chief. In any case, you're making a distinction between the cops and the prosecutor that I don't. Racist COP, or racist PROSECUTOR, don't make NO difference to me.

I'll ask ONCE more.. If the circumstances were the same, and a black man killed white man, would he still be free? I know WHY you don't want to answer.

excon

[tomder55]

We are already dealing with too many hypotheticals and shifting narratives in this case.

[talaniman]

There may be issues about the law. But ,IF the narrative is true ;that Zimmerman was on the ground getting his head slammed into the concrete ;then with or without the law , he was justified to use the gun for self defense.

That remains to be seen, as he was the aggressor, and had he used better judgement, and followed instructions, or even obeyed the recommended guide lines set forth in the neighborhood guide lines, that said, no patrols, no guns, then the circumstances would be different. He would be at home, and an INNOCENT kid would be alive.

I find it amazing you justify this homicide, and condone it with your arguments. I can see you cry to high heaven had it been Zimmerman who was dead, and Trayvon free. And that would be a hypocritical double standard. No matter what you heard on tape, you cannot erase the FACT that all his other calls about suspicious people were of color, and it matters NOT that he volunteered to teach Black kids. That's a cop out. In a half white community the only ones he deems suspicious are kids of color??

Obviously you see, hear, and think what you will but you can't ignore the obvious, nor gloss over it.

Its beginning to look like cover up rather than sloppy police work. Another observation. How can he afford a team of high priced lawyers in the first place? Oh, that's right, he can,his daddy was a judge, but poor people get a public defender, if they live through it.

Fair and unbiased equal protection under the law my A$$!! Fact is this law, and law enforcements application of it lets murderers go free, and serves the public poorly. You call this law and order?

[excon]

We are already dealing with too many hypotheticals and shifting narratives in this case.

Hello again, tom:

You have constantly brought up all the OTHER killings that went on during that weekend... Apparently, you're perplexed as to why THIS killing is any different... When I try to explain that the black community can tell the difference between a RACIST system, and a NON racist one, you look at me with a wrinkled up nose, and say WHAT racism...

I've pointed out that when the cops catch the killers in ALL the other killings YOU mention, they WILL be prosecuted.. THIS one isn't. When I raise THE pertinent question, the answer of which will reveal WHY this killing IS different, you want to look the other way.

excon

[tomder55]

All I know is that on the same day that Bobby Rush donned a hoodie to speak in the House of Reps ;there were 13 people shot, leaving two dead in Chicago .In his district a black man donned a hoodie and shot 5 ,killing one. Did he say a thing about these seeming daily killings in the town he represents ?
The outrage is being stoked by a press that wants to keep a sensational story alive instead of letting the process proceed.
I have no way of confirming or refuting your hypothetical .But I know that while everyone obsesses over this case ;scores of young black men are being killed in this country ,and it isn't white racists doing it.

[talaniman]

Tom, Tom, Tom, go ahead start a thread about that if you want, but what of this case? Interesting you call for patients and due process here, but don't in the Chicago case. That's inconsistent, and distracting from this issue, in this case.

I mean where was your outrage when scores of black people were being killed FOR YEARS? To have equal protection, there has to be equal application. And a fair law in the first place. Ain't none of that happening here and if it weren't for the media attention there would be no investigation by any one. I know it takes time, but I say keep the pressure on. You just want it to go away.

And that's not a hypothetical.

[tomder55]

You just want it to go away.

You make it sound like I have a personal interest in the case . I don't . I think for this to be ginned up to get the national attention it has ,there had to be other motives . Why would NBC fabricate the tapes unless they were trying to drive the story to a predetermined conclusion ? You call that justice ? I say it's media lynching .

[talaniman]

I call it dishonest reporting.

[speechlesstx]

Media lynching.

[tomder55]

CNN is now backing off their claim about the racial slur in the 9-1-1 audio. They enhanced the audio and now it sounds like he said "cold" .

Also ABC did an enhancement of the police video of Zimmerman's head ,and now it appears that there is a wound.
George Zimmerman: Enhanced Video Shows Injury on Trayvon Martin Shooter's Head | Video - ABC News

Zimmerman must be asking by now , 'Which office do I go to get my reputation back'?

[speechlesstx]

I call it dishonest reporting.

And sometimes they're just in so deep with some folks they've become just plain stupid.

MSNBC duped: Network runs satirical fake news from Daily Kos as a real story

[TUT317]

I would call all of this extreme advocacy journalism. The type preferred by the majority of the media most of the time.

Tut