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        I have a Goodman furnace (gmpn080-4 Rev B). I want to install a new T-stat that is in need of a "c-wire". I have an extra wire in my bundle that is not being used that I could use.
 I currently have a Honeywell t-stat that is only using 4 of the 5 wires, White (heat relay), Green (fan), Red (power) and Blue (cooling which connects to the screw labeled Y on the t-stat).  All the rest match up to the correct color.
 
 Here is my problem.  I found on the internet a way to id the C-wire.  Using a tester, touch the Red with each of the other three wires.  If it jumps to 24V, then that is your C-wire.  Since I am only using four wires right now, I did not expect to find one.  The problem is, that I did.  My white wire jumped to 24V when I touched it with the red wire.
 
 So how do I wire my new t-stat if the white wire is both the heat relay and the C-wire?  Can I split the wire and connect to both terminals (White and "C")?
 
 Thanks for your help
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                      Mar 1, 2012, 08:57 AM
                  
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        I don`t understand what you are trying to say, but the common wire has to be a total seporate wire used for nothing else but commonAt the circuit/control board you should find a wire hangin loose  (usually blue) this would be common tie this wire to one of the extra wires you have going to tstat,then hook that colored wire to c post on the tstat
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                      Mar 1, 2012, 09:43 AM
                  
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        Yeah, I get that, but the current white wire is coming is as 24V, is that normal?  I can use my extra wire to be the common, also a 24V.
 I am just confused as to why my current white (heating) wire is already 24V.  I didn't expect that, but if that is the way it is suppose to be, then great.
 
 So I won't have a problem having two wires coming into the t-state that are 24V?  The white wire and my new common?
 
 Here is a link to my board. (http://www.alltemp-hvac.com/gmpn.pdf, last page).  I don't have a Common terminal off the board, only white, green, and red.
 
 Thanks for you help and patience.
 
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                      Mar 1, 2012, 10:38 AM
                  
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         And are you sure its not set for heat while you are testing, are you removing wires from tstat while testingComeing from the airhandler you should have only (1) 24 V hot wire "red" the tstat then acts as a switch sending 24v to whichever wire that its set for
 Hope this helps, hang in there you1ll get it figured out
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                      Mar 1, 2012, 11:35 AM
                  
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        OK, I think I got it.  I think I did have the heat on.  Now this is all starting to make sense.  I think I need to have my extra wire connecting to the blue wire in my furnace, which is the ground.  That should give me power to the tstat at all times.
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        Good for you,, 
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        Woohoo! After a brain hiccup, I figured it out.  Thanks for all your help wmproop.  Greatly appreciated.
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