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    Dec 28, 2011, 08:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Many others celebrate the season both with, and without trees, so when government says happy holiday, might that mean everyone?? This is a nondenominational nation.
    Christmas is Christmas, a federally recognized holiday. It can be nothing else but Christmas. They don't say "happy holidays" at the Ramadan festivities at the White House, call it what it is.
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    #42

    Dec 28, 2011, 12:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Christmas is Christmas, a federally recognized holiday. It can be nothing else but Christmas. They don't say "happy holidays" at the Ramadan festivities at the White House, call it what it is.
    Sure they do. Anyway Christmas is about Santa Claus and gift giving and bring with family.
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    Dec 28, 2011, 02:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Sure they do.
    No they don't, they celebrate Ramadan.

    Continuing a tradition at the White House, last night President Obama hosted his third Iftar dinner to celebrate Ramadan. The Iftar is the meal that breaks the day of fasting, when Muslim families and communities eat together after sunset. The President was joined in the State Dining Room by two Muslim American members of Congress, Keith Ellison and Andre Carson, members of the diplomatic corps, and Muslim American families and service members. During his remarks the President wished a blessed Ramadan to Muslim Americans and Muslims around the world:

    To the millions of Muslim Americans across the United States and more -- the more than one billion Muslims around the world, Ramadan is a time of reflection and a time of devotion. It’s an occasion to join with family and friends in celebration of a faith known for its diversity and a commitment to justice and the dignity of all human beings. So to you and your families, Ramadan Kareem.

    I didn't see any mention of "holidays" in his remarks, happy or otherwise.

    Anyway Christmas is about Santa Claus and gift giving and bring with family.
    Christmas has been and always will be first about the birth of Jesus.
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    Dec 28, 2011, 02:51 PM
    I could've sworn the President called it the Holiday Candelabra when he lit all the candles on the Menorah at once during the White House Hanukkah celebration(2 weeks early ) .
    Obama violates protocol by lighting candles on the menorah before Hanukkah - NYPOST.com
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    Dec 28, 2011, 02:54 PM
    LOL, what a boob. Takes care to have a nice Ramadan bash and remains clueless about Hanukkah.
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    Dec 28, 2011, 03:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Sure they do. Anyway Christmas is about Santa Claus and gift giving and bring with family.
    If I didn't know you were joking I would say you are niaive. Christmas has become what materialism made it, the invention of commercialism. There is only one thing that Christmas is about, God's gift to the world. It isn't about anythingelse
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    #47

    Dec 28, 2011, 07:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Christmas has been and always will be first about the birth of Jesus.
    For the religious types, other than that in the US it's all about the sales in the stores.
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    Dec 28, 2011, 09:17 PM
    Krama for the commercial types is is always about sales but for some of us it is about something different. There is always an excuse to make a buck
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    #49

    Dec 29, 2011, 05:13 AM
    Praclete, in the US it's always about making a buck.
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    Dec 29, 2011, 07:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    For the religious types, other than that in the US it's all about the sales in the stores.
    NK, I get it but it doesn't matter whether anyone actually celebrates Christmas (literally "Christ mass") for the intended purpose, it is still the commemoration of Christ's birth. Period.
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    Dec 29, 2011, 07:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    it is still the commemoration of Christ's birth. Period.
    Nope, no longer, you guys lost that battle, consumerism won it.
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    Dec 29, 2011, 08:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Nope, no longer, you guys lost that battle, consumerism won it.
    Whatever.

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