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shaklee3 · Dec 27, 2011, 02:32 PM

Hi, I have a leak in the bathroom sink that I've traced back to the hole where the stopper rod comes out from the top of the sink. There's a nut up there that I removed to check, but it was completely dry. The leak appears to be coming from somewhere above that. Is it a bad faucet or is the piece where the rod goes through leaking?

speedball1 · Dec 27, 2011, 02:51 PM

I'm confused! There's a rod coming out of the hole with a knob. No nut. I'll put up a diagram of as pop-up and you can tell me exactly where it's leaking from, Back to you. Tom

shaklee3 · Dec 27, 2011, 02:54 PM

Sorry, the nut is looking from below where the stopper comes down

speedball1 · Dec 27, 2011, 03:16 PM

OK! Little misunderstanding on my part. By "hole" you meant the drain and not the hole the rod comes out of. The only things above the nut are the fiber friction ring and the black rubber washer. Get a large wrench and crank down on the nut. That should stop your leak. Good luck, Tom

shaklee3 · Dec 27, 2011, 03:19 PM

I cranked it as hard as I could and it still comes through the little hole the rod comes out guess I need a new faucet?

speedball1 · Dec 27, 2011, 03:44 PM

The faucet has nothing to do with the drain leak.
Hey! We got to get our holes straight. You were complaining about a leak from the drain and now you tell me

it still comes through the little hole the rod comes out

I've put up as diagram. Using the terms in the picture can you explain exactly where the leak is. Use the terms in the picture. What's the rod got to do with it? Help a guy out here. Let's get on the same page. Back to you. Tom

shaklee3 · Dec 27, 2011, 03:50 PM

I didn't see there was a diagram when I looked at it on my phone. Now that I'm looking at it, the leak is coming from the top of the "Clevis" in your diagram. The water goes all the way down that onto the floor. There's a nut at the top of the clevis that I've tightened as much as possible without any luck.

Sorry, let me even clear that up. The stopper rod is where the water originates, then goes down onto the Clevis. I can try to take a picture if you think that'd help.

speedball1 · Dec 27, 2011, 04:11 PM

Now we're away from the drain under the bowl. Why were cranking on that nut? Now we're on top of the bowl at the hole the stopper rod comes through? Am I correct so far? There's a leak somewhere on top and the water's draining through the little stopper rod hole. Have I finely got it right? Let me know and we'll go from there. Tom

shaklee3 · Dec 27, 2011, 04:40 PM

Yes, that sounds correct

shaklee3 · Dec 27, 2011, 05:09 PM

Here are two pictures I've taken. You can see in IMG_6862 where the hole is that I was referring to where the water is leaking from. I've gotten to the point where I'm trying to take the whole thing apart and re-seal/replace the unit if needed, but I don't know how to get the large threaded piece off that is shown in IMG_6861.

speedball1 · Dec 27, 2011, 05:11 PM

One more question, Is the hole the stopper rod comes out of part of the faucet? If so then that puts the leak in the faucet itself unless you can come up with a different source. Everything above the hole is dry? Take a wad of TP and check. If the top part of the faucet's dry and no water coming from the top of the valve then perhaps the faucet has a internal leak. In that case the faucet may need to be replaced. And what was that nut you were tightening? Tom

shaklee3 · Dec 27, 2011, 05:12 PM

Yeah, it's part of the faucet itself it looks like. Everything above the hole is dry from what I can tell.

speedball1 · Dec 27, 2011, 06:42 PM

If that's the pop up assembly for a lavatory I've never seen one like it.
Go back and see the typical pop-ups I've put up.
What's that big hole? Come come I don't see a stopper rod?
You have been one of my more interesting problems.
I have goner from a drain leak to a pressure weep in the fasucet on top and running down the stopper rod hole and now I'm back looking at the drain assembly. This has really been fun for me. ( I mean that!) but I'm on this all day when the other guys are working. Sooo, I kick back at 7PM and shut down until about 8. See you then! Cheers, Tom

shaklee3 · Dec 27, 2011, 06:44 PM

Thanks, I really appreciate your help. The reason the stopper isn't there anymore is I pulled it out after taking this pictures. IMG_6862 shows the hole I was referring to where the stopper rod would be. At this point I'm just trying to get the darn thing off so I can clean/replace the faucet, and I'm not having any luck on getting the big threaded part off.

speedball1 · Dec 28, 2011, 06:15 AM

just trying to get the darn thing off so I can clean/replace the faucet

So now we're back up on the faucet again. ( You're a "hoot" that's what you are!)
If you want to replace the faucet why did you tear up the drain assembly. We have been on this for two pages and I still have no idea what's leaking or where it's leaking from. You give your pictures numbers but they don't show up in your post.
If you can tell me what's leaking,(the faucet or the drain. Perhaps we can localize the source and get down to a repair. Back to you, Tom

shaklee3 · Dec 28, 2011, 08:32 AM

The pictures I sent are not of the drain assembly, but of the hot/cold connectors to the faucet, and the one below the sink where the rod goes through. The picture with the white hole is the view from below the sink where the rod went through, which is what was originally showing water from there. As you can see, there's really nothing that could cause water to come down that hole since it appears to be part of the faucet. I started to remove the faucet to see if it's repairable since new ones are pretty expensive (this is on a 2-person vanity, so I'd have to replace 2 of them). You'll notice two large threaded pieces where the 3/8" comes out in the pictures, and that's what I need to take off to remove the faucet to inspect it. However, I'm not sure how to get those off. If you think I'm on the wrong track, let me know and I can put it back together fairly quickly.

speedball1 · Dec 28, 2011, 08:49 AM

You don't have to remove the faucet to inspect it. Give me a description of the faucet. One handle or two knobs and the brand name and I'll tell you how to open it up. Regards, Tom

shaklee3 · Dec 28, 2011, 09:25 AM

Thanks Tom. I don't know what it is besides a 3-piece (2 knobs) brass faucet since I'm at work. I'll get you the brand when I get home. The picture I posted with the white thread is the center piece (the actual faucet) while the other piece you see in the background is one of the knobs.

massplumber2008 · Dec 28, 2011, 01:24 PM

Hi Shaklee

From what I understand your center spout is leaking from underneath and you are trying to loosen the nut (under sink) going to the spout fitting... right so far?

See image below. If I am right then you can loosen that nut using a BASIN WRENCH (see other image... available at all home supply stores) and check to see if the seal up top is compromised and letting water fall under the spout, or you can see/confirm that there is a leak at the spout assembly and the faucet needs to be replaced. My guess from what you have stated is that the faucet is shot... ;)

Check for the leak and then let us know the name brand... part could be under warranty, OK?

Mark

shaklee3 · Dec 28, 2011, 02:10 PM

Thanks guys! Yes, the picture you have is detailed correctly and that is where the leak was. I'll go buy a basin wrench today. The faucet I believe is from the 1980's when the house was built, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's shot by now. I'll give you more information when I get home.