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Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 07:23 PM

I'd say stick with one story and do a good job. Carver's story about love can be researched. Can the sources be online ones?

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 07:24 PM

I'm with you.

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 07:32 PM

What about something like, Throughout human history, people have tried to define the word "love." [Then talk briefly about different cultures and how they did, such as the ancient Greeks, etc.]

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 08:01 PM

Sorry I wasn't near my computer. Yes the sources are from online. But I don't know what to research. Can you give me like a headline for what to write about in each paragraph that will make it so much easier for me so I can start writing. And then I can finish it tonight and maybe email it to you tomorrow?

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 08:02 PM

What's a headline? You mean a topic sentence?

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 08:07 PM

I meant like ideas on what to write in each paragraph?

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 08:13 PM

Here's what I would do. I would spend the first two pages talking about how various cultures define love and then discuss that -- define them and discuss. Then I would swing into the short story and talk about how each character uses some of the definitions previously discussed, thinking those are ideal love. For instance, Terri's idea of love relates to amae in the Japanese culture. Mel's idea of love is somewhat confused but could relate to the three ancient Greek ideas of love (philos, eros, and agape). And so on with each character. That should easily get you 8 pages.

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 09:04 PM

And does that go with the prompt my teacher was asking for? Do I discuss about the story at all in any of this essay? And what should I exactly research about?

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 09:09 PM

And also to start my first paragraph should I define love and how it was used in the story?

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 09:23 PM

Like I don't understand where in my essay do I actually talk about the actual story, and what do I actually research about the story?

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 09:42 PM

I would spend the first two pages talking about love -- what is it, how do cultures define it, what people in various cultures think it is and want it to be and have defined it. There's the opportunity for research.

Then spend the next five pages talking about each character and what he or she thinks love is. The last page could be about Carver and what he hoped to show about love with this story. More research there.

Does that make sense?

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 09:45 PM

Oh okay, that sounds easy. Do you mind helping me out with a introduction paragraph and maybe sending me your email so I can maybe email you my essay and you correct it for me please?

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 09:51 PM

Earlier I gave you a first sentence:

Throughout human history, people have tried to define the word "love." [Then talk about different cultures and how they did, such as the ancient Greeks, Japanese, etc.]

I am not allowed to take this offline, so you have to ask me questions in this thread. And I definitely do not want to do your work for you.

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 09:52 PM

Oh okay, thank you.

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 10:50 PM

This is what I have so far in my intro.

Throughout human history, people have tried to define the word “love.” Everyone speaks not of love itself, but of the weak structures and distortions that support love. Love, loss, blindness, and aloneness are some of the basic views on everyone's daily lives. The question of how to find love has always been very hesitant. The main cause is how to deal with a loss? Gaining the judgment and getting to the main resolution are some of the issues that have engaged in human beings. All of this is what human being was created for. To live life, entertaining, to discover fresh new things in life, to overcome the negative and positive aspects of life, the whole fundamental of kindness depends on this. Raymond Carver has been called upon as a twentieth century writer and has been successful in every writing possible, by representing the appearance of humanity in fiction and showing the difficult ways of human beings lives and what they lead to. In many of Raymond Carver's stories human beings are people living on the edge of collapsing and bumping heads with one another.

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 10:58 PM

What are you going to do for the next 7.5 pages? You aren't going to go with my idea?

Are you a non-native-English speaker?

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 10:59 PM

I want to go with what you told me, but I didn't know what I was supposed to write in the introduction to lead into what you told me to write in my body paragraphs. And I am a English speaker.

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 11:13 PM

You tossed in Carver at the end of the paragraph. We don't want to see him until the Summary.

How about going to a new paragraph (after dropping the sentences with Carver in them) and talk about various cultures. Wikipedia has a good article on love and general stuff and what certain cultures believe about how/what love is. Please don't plagiarize though.

Love - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

kari07 · Dec 10, 2011, 11:15 PM

So in my introduction keep everything in it? And add stuff from the article you sent me? And then where I was talking about Carver start that in another paragraph?

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2011, 11:22 PM

No.

Get rid of the last two sentences about Carver. Save them for page 8.

Intro

General info about love (2 pages, use info from other web sites too)

Japanese ideas on love (do research)

Ancient Greek ideas on love (do research)

English has only one word for love (do research)

Mel's idea of love

Terri's idea of love

etc. -- other characters

Summary - Carver's ideas on love, and did the story tell us what we need to know about love