[smoothy]

Then keep what you have and leave everyone else alone.

Who and what is that referring to? The lefties want to take a good healthcare system off everyone BUT congress and their Union Supporters (remember all those wavers)... and follishly believe the Obama LIE that you can keep what you have... when its all designed to take that away from everyone... Except of Course CONGRESS and the WHITEHOUSE...

Who by the very act of exempting themselves from it is proof positive what a steaming load of manure it really is. Or they would have it themselves.

[talaniman]

So who are you votiing for in the election, Santorum, Hmmm probably Michelle Bachmann! Bet this is hard choice for you since there are so many far righties to choose from.

[smoothy]

So who are you votiing for in the election, Santorum, Hmmm probably Michelle Bachmann! Bet this is hard choice for you since there are so many far righties to choose from.

ANYONE but OBAMA would be a HUGE improvement.

Obama has accomplished the impossible... Jimmy Carter is no longer the worst president in our lifetime.

[talaniman]

So you don't want to admit Bachmann is your choice huh? Or do you mourn that Christie just said NO?

[smoothy]

So you don't want to admit Bachmann is your choice huh?? Or do you mourn that Christie just said NO?

I honestly don't have a preference WHICH Republican gets the nomination at this point... any of them will be a huge improvement over Obama.

[talaniman]

I disagree strongly, but you already knew that.

[smoothy]

Well... there are a few people that still believe the economy is doing great. I don't know by what definition they use, or how they quantify it... or exactly WHERE in the country that's its doing great.


But then, there are people that believe in Alien abductions, and would argue just as passionately they experienced one if not more.

[talaniman]

Take the money out of politics on every level, and they become servants, ours, the peoples, instead of some greedy fats cat who wants mo' money.

[tomder55]

So you don't want to admit Bachmann is your choice huh?? Or do you mourn that Christie just said NO?

I don't know why the Republic establishment is fixated on getting a Northeast Republican on the ticket. Do they think Romney or Christie can pick off their state ? Yeah that worked so well for the Dems in 2004 . Didn't Kerry get N Carolina with Edwards on the ticket ? I would jump on the bandwagon of a NE Republican if Rudy would announce. But that won't happen.

I don't think any of the announced candidates will do even though I will vote for whoever is the nominee over the President... hold my nose and vote for Romney even. But it's way to early... There are enough differences between the candidates that I want to hear them make their case .

If I had a say on the candidate then I say without reservation that I'm on the Cain train. But who knows... Palin still looms and I think she'd be a fine President.

[talaniman]

So what do you think of Reagan calling for higher taxes on the rich, and closing there loop holes??

[tomder55]

The President used Reagan's quotes out of context... nothing new there .

And before you show that miniclip from the 1985 speech let me elaborate. Reagan lowered marginal rates and closed loopholes. Obama's Buffett rule is just a marginal rate increase on a select group of taxpayers. Reagan's tax reforms were on the right course . Obama's is just so much progressive pablum.

[NeedKarma]

Palin still looms and I think she'd be a fine President.

Oh dear.

[talaniman]

VIDEO: Reagan Called For An End To 'Crazy' Tax Loopholes That Let Millionaires Pay Less Than Bus Drivers | ThinkProgress

You can't have it both ways. In truth, he raised and lowered taxes 17 times, not only to battle the budget, but to raise revenue, and for the record, Mr Obama has lowered taxes since he has been in office too. In the stimulus plan, that the right hates, and I the latest Jobs Bill, that the right hates even more.

FLEXIBILITY!

[tomder55]

Again Reagan talks of loopholes... Obama talks about marginal rates.

I'm not asking for both ways. I have said put tax reform on the table to simplfy the code. Obama doesn't want that... he wants to score cheap political points with the silly Buffet rule that even Buffet is now backing off from.

Flexibility ? Reagan worked with a dominant Democrat Congress and got his agenda.. That means he had to deal with O'Neal . In Obama's case he flashes an empty piece of paper in the air and yells "pass the bill" knowing his own party in Congress won't touch it.

[talaniman]

He tried to work with Bonehead, but yet again for the umpteenth time he was rebuked and what do you do when there is no compromise but plenty of obstruction. He is making the case to the people and the hell with congress, cantor, and bonehead. They asked, no demanded he lead, and now he is so let the chips fall where they may and we see who believes what.

Hey who started this clog up the works and don't let him win, so he can be a one term president crap in the first place.

All you righties care about it seems is the power to tell woman what they should do, trash gays, and start wars, and undermine the basics of America by defunding the government, and making even more poor people than Bush did, and let the free market do whatever it wants. Free market my a$$, take the money and go over seas and come home and talk of uncertainty, regulations and more BS excuses to keep the cash it sucked from the economy so we can be a third world like the rest of the freakin' world.

1% telling the other 99% what to do ain't going to work for me. Give me a break!

I will agree that none of the polocies or regulations of the last 3 years have gone far enough to effectively address the issues we face, but as I see it, the right doesn't want them too.

Ronald Reagan wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting elected in today's Republican Party. What's wrong with that picture.

[TUT317]

The system we have now works very well.....why change to a system that works poorly every place else in comparison.

Fair crack of the whip Smoothy. Our system wins hands down ( by comparison).

[tomder55]

All you righties care about it seems is the power to tell woman what they should do, trash gays, and start wars, and undermine the basics of America by defunding the government, and making even more poor people than Bush did, and let the free market do whatever it wants. Free market my a$$, take the money and go over seas and come home and talk of uncertainty, regulations and more BS excuses to keep the cash it sucked from the economy so we can be a third world like the rest of the freakin' world.

1% telling the other 99% what to do ain't going to work for me. Give me a break

Yawn... hard refute constructed rants and phantasms. I zoned out after you called protecting the life of an innocent child "telling a women what to do". I can't take an argument seriously that claims that I want to undermine the basis of America by defunding the Levithian that was never the intent of the nation's founding in the 1st place.

[paraclete]

Doesn't matter who called for it who's going to do it?

[talaniman]

yawn ...hard refute constructed rants and phantasms. I zoned out after you called protecting the life of an innocent child "telling a women what to do". I can't take an argument seriously that claims that I want to undermine the basis of America by defunding the Levithian that was never the intent of the nation's founding in the 1st place.

So preventing abortions is best done by shutting down ALL health care for a female? You have to be kidding me. That's like using a hammer to bust a pimple. Another example of Republican over reach. Just like the effort in Alabama to ban birth control.

And lets be clear, the founding fathers were 19th century men with no clue the direction this country would take, and when you speak of intent, they were well intentioned flawed humans, so don't run that intent of the founding fathers crap because obviously we are into actual practice and far beyond what they intended.

They intended that we would be free but they had slaves, so be careful who you point your intents at and see the actual practice.

And it was my turn to rant anyway. You used yours already. Hmmm, I might have a few more coming if you keep assuming the intent of long ago men. They done good with what they had, now its somebody else's turn.

[paraclete]

Yawn Yawn Yawn some very tired issues here. I know you fellows have another year of this. I love elections here. Electioneering starts about six weeks before the election, and then it is over for another three years then we can get down to some good ole politic'n and dirt diggin but confine it to one place far away.

You guys never get out of election mode, it is a wonder you ever get anything done anyway time to discuss something important. This is race week on the mountain and I hear 80 million americans are going to tune in to see the Great Race, 1000 kilometres of V8 fury. I can't hear the buzz of bees yet but come Sunday (Saturday to you) I won't be able to hear myself think