[jnapier]

LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS, Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.

Again, consider the source. I'm not perfect - I'm not asking ANYONE to do something they don't feel comfortable with. I can tell you that Rod Cook sells pay plans to the network marketing industry. He works with a lot of mlm companies.

I'm not here to pick a fight, I'm simply sharing my success story with Coastal Again, Postitive People Get Positive Results!

Jay NaPier

[jnapier]

Again - We can find a lot of negative information about churches and spiritual beliefs. I choose to look for the positive!

Jay NaPier

[jnapier]

Fr_Chuck you copy and paste skills are WONDERFUL! I'm just curious how your parishoners would feel about you spending so much time on this. Are there not needs in your own community or Church?

Jay NaPier

[NeedKarma]

As with any work at home program you must be careful of the 2 big warning signs:
1. having to pay money upfront for 'materials' or 'tools' or 'seminars'
2. being urge to recruit to make "even more money" (an advance clue to this is if there are various 'levels')

[Fr_Chuck]

Retired, and glad to help warm people of scams,

[NeedKarma]

Dear Jay,

Have you not noticed how all these threads start? Not only here but all over other discussion boards. Some brand new poster ask "Hey, is <insert company to be pumped here> is a scam or legit?" and like clockwork someone like yourself chimes in to wax poetic about how great the opportunity is and to contact him for more info. Odd that uh?

Of course your ad hominem attack on a moderator here doesn't make you look any more legit either.

[jnapier]

Fr_chuck You are the MASTER at copy and paste. Why not sample the cheese cake before you decide you don't like it?

One of the biggest challenges I have with people on ANY opinion is giving an opinion based upon someone else's opinion.

Who's the best Nascar Driver? There are many. I have a few favorites, BUT if you don't follow the sport. How can you have an opinion on who the best driver is? ANSWER - YOU CAN'T!

I give my person invitation to ANYONE here who's read this information to attend a CSG Regional Training Event. Talk with the people at the event. Our last event had over 200 people here in Nashville.

Jay NaPier

[NeedKarma]

From what I have read on the net it looks like a scam.

[jnapier]

Also you'll notice during web searches that many discussion board postings procede exactly as this one: someone registers on the same day that they post a question about Coastal, other people register that same day or the next day and offer beautiful copy/paste answers. Never do longtime posters in those discussion groups ever pipe in to offer their success stories.

People should ONLY POST about things they have experience with. I can't be everywhere and have a 9 year old daughter at home. My family comes first. CSG is a family of people who all have a passion for travel. I'm new here and I'm only looking to share my experience so people who HAVE A REASON to work from home - CAN!

Jay NaPier

[jnapier]

As with any work at home program you must be careful of the 2 big warning signs:
1. having to pay money upfront for 'materials' or 'tools' or 'seminars'
2. being urge to recruit to make "even more money" (an advance clue to this is if there are various 'levels')

LOL... this is a hoot. Better tell that to the folks who buy restaurants. I've YET to see a bakery without an oven!

Even more funny is the next one. So your saying that Bill Gates does all the sales at Microsoft? I've got a sales team that work with me. I manage the team and help them in their business.

Jay NaPier

[jnapier]

Dear Jay,

Have you not noticed how all these threads start? Not only here but all over other discussion boards. Some brand new poster ask "Hey, is <insert company to be pumped here> is a scam or legit?" and like clockwork someone like yourself chimes in to wax poetic about how great the opportunity is and to contact him for more info. Odd that uh?

Of course your ad hominem attack on a moderator here doesn't make you look any more legit either.

Agreed, and I'd like ot also add that most of these people who are are people who are afraid to take a risk. I bought my first franchise in 1995. I was married 4 months and packed everything into a UHaul to move to Cincinnati to buy a Gold Star Chili Franchise. I didn't go ask the maintaince guy at my apartment complex what he tought? What did he know about running a business?

People should simply get the information about ANY business. Decide what it means to them and ACT.

Jay NaPier

[jnapier]

From what I have read on the net it looks like a scam.

I took a different approach. I got involved. Took vacations. Met the people. Got to know the Board of Directors.

The ONLY way to have an opinion about ANYTHING is to find out for yourself. One of the reasons politics is such a challenge is because people stay glued to the TV listening to other peoples opinions instead of getting the facts and making their own decision.

Did The speaker of the house say that? Lol... I don't watch news because it WAY too negative!

Again... Get The Facts!


Jay NaPier

[Fr_Chuck]

And I am sure that when done correctly most MLM projects can earn people money, And a good sales person can make money if the item is a toilet brush, plastic dishes or vacations and travel.

And I will add that many on here know I am a great web researcher, and I will say that it appears Jay here means well, I see that on some news releases he even speaks for the company. And is a retired ( maybe not the right word) owner of some restaurant. And that he has tried hard to help many of the people cheated by some of the bad people. And I know he can't really admit how many bad it was, since that looks bad on the company.

As long as people understand they can lose their investment and not make any money, ( as with any business startup)

Jay, I am sure is here to do some or try to do some loss control and try to get a few people to come to their site, I don't blame him, that is his job.

And this business is as good as many, better than some. Jay has done allot of good and has tried to help many cheated by others from Coastal.

So no Jay we are not all against you, just want people not to get caught up in the get rich, travel free and look at handsome as me, but think before they invest in yours or anyone's plan.

[Fr_Chuck]

And I am sure that when done correctly most MLM projects can earn people money, And a good sales person can make money if the item is a toilet brush, plastic dishes or vacations and travel.

And I will add that many on here know I am a great web researcher, and I will say that it appears Jay here means well, I see that on some news releases he even speaks for the company. And is a retired ( maybe not the right word) owner of some restaurant. And that he has tried hard to help many of the people cheated by some of the bad people. And I know he can't really admit how many bad it was, since that looks bad on the company.

As long as people understand they can lose their investment and not make any money, ( as with any business startup)

Jay, I am sure is here to do some or try to do some loss control and try to get a few people to come to their site, I don't blame him, that is his job.

And this business is as good as many, better than some. Jay has done allot of good and has tried to help many cheated by others from Coastal.

So no Jay we are not all against you, just want people not to get caught up in the get rich, travel free and look at handsome as me, but think before they invest in yours or anyone's plan.

[Fr_Chuck]

And I am sure that when done correctly most MLM projects can earn people money, And a good sales person can make money if the item is a toilet brush, plastic dishes or vacations and travel.

And I will add that many on here know I am a great web researcher, and I will say that it appears Jay here means well, I see that on some news releases he even speaks for the company. And is a retired ( maybe not the right word) owner of some restaurant. And that he has tried hard to help many of the people cheated by some of the bad people. And I know he can't really admit how many bad it was, since that looks bad on the company.

As long as people understand they can lose their investment and not make any money, ( as with any business startup)

Jay, I am sure is here to do some or try to do some loss control and try to get a few people to come to their site, I don't blame him, that is his job.

And this business is as good as many, better than some. Jay has done allot of good and has tried to help many cheated by others from Coastal.

So no Jay we are not all against you, just want people not to get caught up in the get rich, travel free and look at handsome as me, but think before they invest in yours or anyone's plan.

[smfishe]

I also plan to be in Las Vegas In June, and look forward to meeting you Jay... the implementor of "Theme Park Thursday".
I remember reading that same cut and paste article when I was researching coastal. I had also seen yours, Stephanie's, and a few others, and that one or two negative things from somebody I didn't know compared to the positive things from people I did hear on the calls... was a major factor. After joining, all I can could say was Wow! And it keeps getting better.
Also the fact that Coastal Vacations has over 200,000 directors world wide.

Chuck, you were invited to come to Nashville, and to alert the media, if you so desired.
If and when you meet a few directors from the CSG, you will never find a more caring, and positive group of people in your life.

[Fr_Chuck]

Actually I may meet some of the people first hand, as noted above, if you read the post, most of the things I find on Jay are very positive, which was noted.

On sties like this, people ask questions, and some of us research it by web searches and other searches, and give answers, so when there are negative things, we have a obligation to also make readers aware of it.

I am sure there are good people in it, ( but some bad also as in any business) My main concern is now, after being aware of all the past problems, what procedure to protect people are in place today when there is problems from others.

[WHOOPEENA]

To the all of the Coastal Synergy Group naysayers on this board, your one-sided opinions (redundant, I know) are becoming weary.

Don’t get me wrong, I do value your thoughts as they are a necessary part in presenting a whole picture of this business. My offense to your posts against Coastal Synergy Group (CSG) comes from implying that positive posters may be Coastal Members and that they must be promoting the business for their own personal gain. I guess no good could possibly ever come from someone ever being positive about this opportunity. You post your opinions but slam others who post ones contrary to yours.

Believe me, I do not offend easily; I am not politically correct; and I definitely have better things to be doing than answering every post I don’t agree with.

But my being a CSG member doesn’t make me any less of an expert on Coastal Vacations being a good thing, than you not being a member makes you more of expert that this business is a sham.

Most people are going to find positive and negative information on just about anything they are thinking of doing, like when they go to buy a car or house, or maybe even decide which religious denomination to follow. I am in no way comparing the importance of the church with that of a home-based business, but rather pointing out that the selection process is very similar. Before jumping into something, an individual should gather as much information as he can, solicit feedback (both good and bad, if applicable) from other individuals, and then make an informed decision based on his findings,

I am a very cynical and I approached this business analytically. I did every imaginable search on several different search engines. I did the 3rd degree interview on my director. I even ran through listings and agencies designed to detect people who are not who they say they are.

In other words, I did not drink the kool-aid.

However, I did weigh the pros and cons of what I found and made my decision based on cost of investment, time needed to work the business, interest in the product, and many other factors. I have been in the business for over six months now and I can truly say it’s been a life changing experience. I’m not a rah-rah kind of person who gets all hyped up over things, but it was a huge thrill to see the look on my boss’ face when I told him to take this job and shove it! Well, I didn’t use those exact words, but it still felt good nonetheless.

For anyone going to work for themselves (at home or wherever), you must still WORK! The only change is that you’re working for yourself and not someone else. It’s just like the fine print on those “magic” diet pill ads out there – “for best results, diet and exercise are highly recommended.” Translation: you still have to DO SOMETHING to obtain positive benefits. This is not a get-rich-quick scheme and CSG never promotes itself in such a way.

I just wanted to take the opportunity to address my concerns in this forum for all who venture onto this website. I post in favor of Coastal Synergy Group and their product, Coastal Vacations. The people I’ve come in contact with have been nothing but helpful and seem to truly care that everyone succeeds in this business. I have been impressed by the amount of assistance members give to other members (and non-members alike) with no financial gain whatsoever by helping out. I have never seen a more professional and supportive organization and the return on investment has been much more than a monetary value.

To those “in the market” for a home-based business opportunity, take in all of what you read here, both good and bad. Then do more research, and still even more if you have to. Make an informed decision that’s best for you and above all, never, never be a lemming!

[jnapier]

As long as people understand they can lose their investment and not make any money, ( as with any business startup)

Fr_Chuck, this is a subject that we don't see mentioned much. ANYTIME we make an investment in a business opportunity it's at risk. You also want to remember that you should have a passion for travel or want to travel before purchasing a membership.

No matter what business you look at, you should have a passion for the product. I see a lot of people who fail in the nutritional suppliment industry. One of the reasons they fail is because they are not passionate about health and nutrition.

My dad retired from business over 12 years ago. He's legally blind and still remembers the years when a company would take care of you for life. We've all seen the lay offs of the auto industry. Ever a great career in the auto industry is "at risk".

Let's also consider that people are making a purchse in a travel membership. I don't use all 60 companies. I use the ones that I enjoy most. A really good example is a trip to San Diego a group of CSG member went on. Normal Rate at the Red Lion Hotel was $249. Team member 1 paid $137 pr. Night. I paid $118 pr. Night. Team member 2 paid $108 per night. The difference was the Team member 2 looked at several options before making a reservation at the hotel.

One of the biggest challenges the US faces can also be our biggest opportunity. It's really just a matter of deciding what it means to you. I know for a fact that some people who took the buy out from Ford now have checks of over $100,000. It's what you choose to do with it that will make or break you.

As the story of the 3 talents goes. You can put it all in a secure place or you can risk it and come back with more.
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True entrepreneurs are risk takers.

Jay NaPier

[NeedKarma]

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