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Sep 7, 2011, 08:27 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
I'm not sure what you're saying... Are you saying that the super committee can make all the CUTS they want WITHOUT a vote, and that's FINE with you??? But, let 'em raise taxes, and YOU want it VOTED on???
That ain't right.
excon
I'm saying the idea of the IRS doing my taxes for me is nuts. Are you ready to turn your finances over to the feds?
P.S. You did good in your draft. Not as good as me but solid.
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Sep 7, 2011, 08:41 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Nothing? If the IRS is going to fill out my form for me they just can just do the work also and send me the check. Are you nuts, letting the IRS do your taxes? That's insane.
From your own post:
“… the revenue service could send you a tax form already filled out with the information it has for you — a Simple Return — rather than a blank tax form. You would simply check the numbers against your W-2 and 1099 and then sign it.”
You're making stuff up to be outraged more than last time you were outraged. That's a lot of outrage.
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Sep 7, 2011, 08:41 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Are you ready to turn your finances over to the feds?
Hello again, Steve:
I'm STILL not sure what you're saying... If they do the MATH, but FORGET a deduction that I'm entitled to, I'll find it. If they do the math, and YOU don't find YOUR deductions, I'm not going to feel bad for you. If they do the math, and TOOK away my deduction arbitrarily, then I wouldn't like it... But, they won't do that.
Now, if the writer (and you) are worried about being forced to let the IRS do your entire return as it stands now, I think you could find more CREDIBLE things to worry about, like an invasion from MARS... But, you guys like to make big to do's about nothing..
excon
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Sep 7, 2011, 08:58 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You're making stuff up to be outraged more than last time you were outraged. That's a lot of outrage.
Your representation of me as "outraged" is "making stuff up." Please stop making stuff up about me and find someone else to stalk before you end up getting yet another thread closed. I'm serious dude, I will not tolerate you misrepresenting me one bit.
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:04 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Your representation of me as "outraged" is "making stuff up."
You mean like this:
 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Are you nuts, letting the IRS do your taxes? That's insane.
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:05 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
I'm STILL not sure what you're saying...
No one is stirring up a conspiracy, I'm just having a discussion over an item of interest in the news. A possibility, which as noted has been advocated for by the president and others. Do you think the IRS doing your taxes is a good thing? I don't, I think it's about as stupid an idea as I've ever heard.
Forgive me for thinking you wouldn't trust the government that much as well. I can never guess when you're going to protest their intrusions and when you're going to trust them.
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:07 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Do you think the IRS doing your taxes is a good thing?
They aren't. They are sending pre-filled in forms to you to verify and sign. This is like the third time I mention it to you but you keep misrepresenting your own original post on the subject.
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:16 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You mean like this:
You never give up do you? That was a figure of speech to address the premise of "letting the IRS do your taxes," not the person, you.
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:19 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
They aren't. They are sending pre-filled in forms to you to verify and sign. This is like the third time I mention it to you but you keep misrepresenting your own original post on the subject.
Please, go stalk someone else.
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:23 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Do you think the IRS doing your taxes is a good thing? I don't.
Forgive me for thinking you wouldn't trust the government that much as well. I can never guess when you're going to protest their intrusions and when you're going to trust them.
Hello again, Steve:
Here's the thing... Given the way taxes are calculated today, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for the IRS to fill out my form.. So, although I would object, I could find more things to object to than something that ISN'T going to happen, EVER...
Now, if they SIMPLIFIED the tax code like they SAY they're going to do, then I'm NOT going to HAVE any deductions, and then I wouldn't mind if the IRS filled in the blanks.
excon
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:30 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Nothing. It's a form with pre-filled info that you can edit. Many companies and schools do this.
I can see nothing that could go right with that... they already have disclaimers if you called for tax advice on their advice line it might lot even be factual much less legal... coming from them... I certainly don't trust them do do anything involving my hard earned money.
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:33 AM
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They aren't ever going to simplify the tax code either. But if people are willing to let them fill in the blanks I won't get in their way.
Me, I'm not crazy about the idea of having to challenge their figures if they get it wrong. I like it much better as it is, them having to prove me wrong, not me having to prove them wrong.
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Sep 7, 2011, 09:39 AM
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Its not that hard, or scary, if you don't like their figures you electronically file an amendment, with your figures, that's what I have been doing for years. You don't have to wait for them to send anything really, but that's an option. I download the forms fill them out, and mail them.
Piece of cake.
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Sep 7, 2011, 03:08 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Speaking of the new super congress and taxes, how about letting the IRS do your taxes for you?
What could possibly go wrong?
It is actually a good idea and has been operating successfully here in recent years in an electronic setting. Identify yourself, download the software with prefilled information, make adjustments and submit, Very simple
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Sep 7, 2011, 03:41 PM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
It is actually a good idea and has been operating successfully here in recent years in an electronic setting. Identify yourself, download the software with prefilled information, make adjustments and submit, Very simple
But they won't even hold themselves responsible for bad or wrong tax advice they give on their own tax helpline.
Sorry... I don't trust them with my garbage much less my money.
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Sep 7, 2011, 08:09 PM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
But they won't even hold themselves responsible for bad or wrong tax advice they give on their own tax helpline.
Sorry.....I don't trust them with my garbage much less my money.
You need to get a better government
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Sep 7, 2011, 08:46 PM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
But they won't even hold themselves responsible for bad or wrong tax advice they give on their own tax helpline.
Sorry.....I don't trust them with my garbage much less my money.
How long have you been in the Tea party
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Sep 8, 2011, 05:23 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
How long have you been in the Tea party
Before you discount that you should actually look into it, its no great national secret like Obamas school records... if you watched TV at all anywhere near the tax deadline they tell you that every year... its no great secret... and it the Lefty Drive by media is who puts that information out between their discertations of Democrat Party Propaganda. So you HAVE to take them at their word... they may throw you under the bus if you don't.
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Sep 8, 2011, 06:44 AM
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Hello again:
I'm willing to have an ADULT conversation with a winger, but you can't do that cause they HOLD back.. Every single "adult" conversation THEY want to have is about cutting entitlements... The STUPID Democrats engage the wingers in THAT conversation giving it credence, where it deserves NO credence whatsoever...
Now, I don't disagree with the WINGER position that we need to LIVE within our means. I'm even WINGYIER than they are on budgetary matters, and SMALL government matters...
But, when I look at the federal budget, I look at the WHOLE budget, and not just the part the emails said I should be looking at...
So, in its simplest form, we can BALANCE our budget very SIMPLY if we ended the two wars we know about, and the 15 or so that we DON'T know about, trimmed down the surveillance state, let the Bush tax cuts end, and make a few adjustment to our entitlement programs...
Oh, and I'd institute Medicare for all Medical costs are rising faster than we can keep up. It's KILLING us. Medicare for all will nip it in the bud.
A little tinkering here and there, and we're DONE. That's all! Next??
excon
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Sep 8, 2011, 07:52 AM
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Ex... Is your idea of an "Adult" conversation as one restricted to and limited to what you personally want it to be in content?
Have you taken a look at the mess Medicare is in right now... they can't pay for their current obligations and you want to pile on more?
Get rid of the pork... the pet projects... and all the blatant political payback projects like 100% of the "stimulus" program that only benifited major liberal campaign donors.
STOP spending more than we take in... just like every other person has to do...
Make EVERYONE pay the same percentage of their income... and stop giving the majority of tax breaks to Democrat slum dwellers... get rid of Obamacare since most liberal organisations were granted wavers exempting themselves from it by the Messiah.
And OH... how about taking away all of HOLLYWOODS tax breaks... with the money they make and the money they throw around in salaries... they clearly don't need them.
But then... King Barry, and Queen Harry (Nancy got demoted)seem to think they are royalty and are entitled to spend as much as they want... and that you can spend your way out of debt.
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