[paraclete]

As one who took an interest way back in 1975 when a government was sacked for incompetence it is beginning to look like a rerun. The Australian government, living on the slender support of independents and the Greens is looking more incompetent every day
Humiliation as things get worse

Flagship policies are going down in flames and with a very questionable MP being supported because if he goes so does the government de jarvu is definitely the order of the day

[tomder55]

Good how soon can the opposition force an election ? Red Julia is going to destroy your country.

[paraclete]

good how soon can the opposition force an election ? Red Julia is going to destroy your country.

The little red fox is at bay. The budgeesmuggler from down under has her backed up against the wall. He just has to keep the other hounds from spoiling the kill. Foxes like Julie are usually killed by their own long before the pursuing hounds get to her. My bet is that Shorten will dart from cover and finish her off. IWhen it gets to an election we expect the Labor party to be gone for a generation as it will be in New South Wales where we had sixteen years hard Labor

The Craig Thomson affair has the potential for tipping the balance. Nothing like a good scandal in union ranks to spoil the plot as these guys can't keep their hands out of the honey pot. The little red fox out foxed herself, announcing a done deal before the High Court took her down. Revolution hasn't been talked of in this country since 1975 but there are many who would see a classic guns and guts as been overdue

[tomder55]

Get rid of her and be done with it.
Now tell me about Ned Kelly's bones...

"Oh Ned your better off dead You get no peace of mind
A track's a trail
And they're hot on your tail
Before they're gonna hang you high"

[TUT317]

get rid of her and be done with it.
Now tell me about Ned Kelly's bones.....

"Oh Ned your better off dead You get no peace of mind
A track’s a trail
And they’re hot on your tail
Before they’re gonna hang you high"

Hi Tom,

Glad to see you are taking an interest something Australian.


Try

Our Ned Kelly

[tomder55]

Double post see below

[tomder55]

We have had several criminals who have made it into folklore. If that is revolution then we have had many revolutions . From the stories I've read he's an American Butch Cassidy.

I became aware of the Kelly story through the movies (starring Heath Ledger and Orlando Bloom).
I heard a news blip that his bones and skull had been identified .

[paraclete]

Tom

Ned Kelly was an outlaw who though he was a revolutionary. It's true that he was badly treated by an over zealous British Colonial administration and being Irish he had many grievences in mind, but he turned to banditary. I would liken him to your Billy the Kid. He is perhaps chief among those we call bushrangers.

I think we always knew where he was buried but like many outlaws his grave was not identified.

The far better version of the story was the one with Mick jagger
http://www.nedkellysworld.com.au/history/history.htm

[TUT317]

[QUOTE=paraclete;2882994]As one who took an interest way back in 1975 when a government was sacked for incompetence it is beginning to look like a rerun. The Australian government, living on the slender support of independents and the Greens is looking more incompetent every day
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Hi Clete,

People over there complain about Obama being a socialist. That's not socialism! Now Whitlam, that's Socialism!

Your original post could be a good discussion but the only people discussing the issue would be people in Australia. Who's
Gough Whitlam ?

Tut

[paraclete]

Hi Clete,

People over there complain about Obama being a socialist. That's not socialism! Now Whitlam, that's Socialism!

Your original post could be a good discussion but the only people discussing the issue would be people in Australia. Who's
Gough Whitlam ?

Tut

Hi Tut the principles are universal even though the characters may be unfamiliar. We once had true politicians on the left, the true believers but the legacy of 1975 were the populists and the unionists and the machine politicians. Gillard in Australia and Obama in the US are tared with the same brush. The americans don't know what socialism is, they have no experience of it, so anything that vests power in government is socialism to them and automatically bad. What we have at the moment is a government applying socialist principles such as income redistribution through taxation and trying to tell us this is a good thing.

You want to know who Gough Whitlam is. He was clearly a Labor party idealist surrounded by an incompetent immature cabinet who bungled their way into a constitutional crisis. There were lessons to be learned and that generation learned them but now we have another generation not understanding the populist politics that gave us the Whitlam government who gave us the incompetent government we have today. Thankfully at the next election the whole rotten mess will be dumped from federal politics just as it was in New South Wales.