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Aug 8, 2011, 05:18 PM
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My tile is about 1/16 in above my toilet flange. Is this acceptable?
My plumber installed the new flange for a bathroom we are adding. Once the plywood and hardee board went down the tiles are appx. 1/16 in above the flange. This is before I even put down the thin set. Will this setup seal or do I need to add extensions to the flange?
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Aug 8, 2011, 05:46 PM
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I'm not a plumber, but would pull the toilet, tile, then reinstall toilet?
But I'm an Electrician/Technitian?
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Home Improvement & Construction Expert
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Aug 8, 2011, 06:08 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem, but if you are worried add a flange extender.
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Home Repair & Remodeling Expert
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Aug 8, 2011, 08:13 PM
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A flange extender would work and even some would use an oversized wax ring or a double ring. Me, I'd call the plumber back out and point out his error. He needs to fix it on his dime. This was a poor install and he needs to stand behind his work. You flange surface should be flush with your tile surface. Sounds like the plumber did not ask the right questions and is almost 1/2" too low.
Bob
the tiles are appx. 1/16 in above the flange
That's pretty close. Granted the thin set will raise the tiles slightly and he should have tried to error on the high side. I'd just use the extender or a thick wax ring.
Yes, I understand but I feel nobody should have to fix s shift Job they paid good money for.
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Plumbing Expert
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Aug 9, 2011, 04:11 PM
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Just going to add my thoughts on this.
First, check to make sure the flange was glued on. Some plumbers will set and screw a flange, but not glue it so it can be pulled for flooring. If this was the case, he should have written on the flange "not glued". I would call the plumber and ask about this.
Next, I never even leave a flange on the jobsite after rough in. I just leave a stub of pipe with a coupling on it at floor level (not glued at the coupling or closet bend) so the floor guys can floor right up to the coupling, leaving me room for the flange when I take the coupling off.
I agree with both Bob and Harold. In your case, an extender ring, or even an extra thich wax ring will most likely work just fine.
On last thought. A true, one hundred percent correctly set closet flange will set directly on top of the FINISHED FLOOR. The top of the flange being even with the finished floor is definatley acceptable. Top of flange below finished floor is no good, but can be dealt with in a number of ways, which have been explained above. A flange with the bottom of the flange higher than the finished floor is unacceptable. Lot more to setting a closet flange than meets the eye huh?:D
Good luck with your project and please let us know how things work out.
PS. Can you let me know if the drain for the toilet is accessible from underneith the floor? If so, and you can post a pic of it, your best bet would be to have the plumber come remove the flange, let you finish the flooring, and set the flange back on top of the finished floor.
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Uber Member
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Aug 10, 2011, 11:14 AM
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This has been a great thread. Good info for us amateurs.
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Aug 10, 2011, 01:05 PM
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What an outstanding website. Thanks for all the responses! mygirlsdad77; The drain is not accessible from underneath (if I understand you correctly) This is a second floor installation and the sub floor, plywood and hardee board are all installed. I am leaning heavily toward either replacing the closet flange ring with an extender if the original isn't glued. If it IS glued I will add a smaller extender ring. Again, you folks have been a great help and I truly appreciate your time. :)
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Home Improvement & Construction Expert
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Aug 10, 2011, 04:54 PM
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Come back soon. We will do anything we can for someone who appreciates us.
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Plumbing Expert
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Aug 10, 2011, 04:59 PM
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Well, almost anything.:cool:
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Eternal Plumber
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Aug 10, 2011, 05:29 PM
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Follow the instructions that are posted. However I don't thin a double (two)b wax seals will be necessary if you build up the flange with flange extenders. (see image). Good luck, Tom
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Home Repair & Remodeling Expert
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Aug 12, 2011, 08:32 AM
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So what happened to the post between #4 and what's now #5? Spomeone completely removed a post made after my post #4. Now my reply to it makes me look like I am talking to myself. Who/why was this thread altered?
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Eternal Plumber
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Aug 12, 2011, 11:28 AM
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o what happened to the post between #4 and what's now #5]
Sorry Bob,
Your post isn't lost, I merged them. When we see back to back posts by the same poster we merge then. This is done to both experts and OPs. Takes up less space and clutter on the thread, If you wish to add to a post you've already you go back to the original , click on "Edit" and complete your answer.
it makes me look like I am talking to myself.
Don't sweat it my friend, I live alone and when the toilet quit talking to me I began to have long conversations with the kitchen sink. Cheers, Tom
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