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    rebeccahstrean Posts: 165, Reputation: 9
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    Jun 28, 2011, 01:06 PM
    My pug need advice asap please
    So I've had her for a couple of months now. I got her in the same condition she's in. The lady I got her from is dead. She died about 2 months ago. I had this dog for about 3 1/2 months. OK... here's the problem... she's a fawn pug, and her nose is chapped and peeling. She keeps licking it. I keep putting vasiline on it and it seems to not work or going away. I can't really aford to take her to a vet. Is there anything I can do besides take her to a vet. If it helps she will be four in Augest.
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    Jun 28, 2011, 01:15 PM

    I had a girlfriend who had a bulldog who had a nose problem like you've described. I make silver water and gave her some for her dog's nose. She put some on at night and the next day the dog's nose was almost healed up. Silver water can be bought at any health store. It's expensive for what little you get but it does work. 10% solution is the regular solution. You can get 20% but that is pricey. I have an electric silver generator but they cost around $120. Google silver water and you will see it is 100% safe to even drink small amounts of it. I used some silver water on my Jack Russell's torn foot pad recently and the pad healed in 2 days. Vets will charge you an arm and leg, give you some salve that does not work. My GF spent a small fortune at her vet for her dog's nose problem and my silver water cleared the nose up for free. No, I don't sell the silver water either but tell anyone who will sit still long enough about it. It is nature's healing antiseptic used since ancient Roman and Greek times (and before).

    Even if she licks it, it won't hurt her in any way.
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    Jun 29, 2011, 02:18 PM

    It could be an allergy (perhaps to a plastic food dish), it could be from too much sun, it could be a skin or thyroid condition. Treatment could be antibiotics or creams - only a Vet would know which is best.

    If you can't afford to take her to the Vet when she is uncomfortable, when her nose is sore, what are you going to do when she needs her shots, is injured or sick?
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    Jun 29, 2011, 03:26 PM
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    She has all of her shots for now. And I put some triple- Anitboitic ointment on it last night and it helped a lot.
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    Jun 29, 2011, 03:31 PM
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    I heard of silver water. My ex boyfriends dad makes it. I don't know how he never told me or showed me but I didn't know you could buy it! But thanks I will buy some! Yeah it works if your sick and have the flu I know that for a fact when he made it for me!:) thanks. Could you tell me how to make it and the cheapest way to go about it?
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    Jun 29, 2011, 03:57 PM

    ANTIBIOTICS ARE DANGEROUS IF DOGS LICK THEM!

    Stop putting antibiotics on the dog's nose unless recommended by a Vet.
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    Jun 29, 2011, 04:03 PM

    Rebecca, you need to find out why her nose is chapped and peeling. As Judy was saying there could be a number of causes. The silver water may help her nose but could be covering up a symptom of a larger problem.
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    Jun 29, 2011, 04:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by rebeccahstrean View Post
    I heard of silver water. My ex boyfriends dad makes it. I don't know how he never told me or showed me but I didn't know you could buy it! but thanks I will buy some! Yeah it works if your sick and and have the flu I know that for a fact when he made it for me!:) thanks. Could you tell me how to make it and the cheapest way to go about it?
    Have your exbf's father make some and give to you. The generators are expensive, especially the electric ones. We're talking around $100+. I bought mine from silverpuppy.com about 9 years ago. They are still in biz as I just bought some new silver wires from them.

    Silver water has so many uses around the home. I use it in the laundry as a safe laundry booster for heavy grime. Add about 1 cup to a washload of heavily soiled clothes. As a bathtub energizer. About 1 cup to one bathtub. It really helps to get your skin clean. As a hair rinse. One half cup added to 1 qt water. Cleans all the built up goo off my hair. Use as a final rinse before conditioner. Use straight from an atomizer or sprayer on athlete's foot fungus. Eases the itch and kills the fungus in a day or so unlike expensive creams and lotions you have to buy to get rid of this. SW even kills pneumonia germs in Petri dishes. I use 2 cups of 20PPM SW to 1/2 bathtub of water when I wash the Dink. Gets rid of fleas like a charm. They hate SW! She does not seem to get new fleas either after her SW bath.

    You make it from distilled water and immerse the silver wires into the water. I use a glass Mason jar for this. I also have a stand with light in it that gently heats up the water and "stirs" the water so the siver has a good consistency to it. I also have a Hanna PPM (parts per million) tester (cost $25 off Ebay). It runs on small lithium batteries. It measures the percentage of the silver water. I use the tester and make mine at least 25 PPM to 30 PPM for the best results.

    Once you own the silver water generator and the PPM tester you're set for YEARS making silver water as the only thing you have to buy is the distilled water. Caution: I DID find several brands of distilled water that would not be able to be used as I could see the "Tindle" effect (looks like smoke coming off the imersed silver wires) even after 10 minutes. I had to go back to a different brand. Believe it or not the distilled water from good old WalMart works like a charm.

    You have to clean the silver wires after use of all the built up black discoloration or the silver water in the next batch will be a dark color. SW should be a very light if not clear color for 10 PPM, slightly colored for 20 PPM and a funny golden color for 30PPM. The coloration has nothing to do with it being bad or good.

    SW should be stored away from direct light. I make gallons of this at a time and store under sink cabinet in bathroom.

    It is a natural antiseptic and you can also use internally but only a tablespoon or so per day or you get the runs. A lot of the Amish here in Ohio buy silver water and take it every day as a health tonic.

    It also healed up some "hot" spots on my Jack Russell when daubed on or sprayed on. Anytime she gets any cuts I immediately put SW on them. Heals up her sores or cuts in a short amount of time. I even use it on myself on cuts. I also use as a mouthwash.

    Vets don't know everything. Haven't taken Dink to the vet in years and years and she's quite healthy. My GF who spent a fortune at the vets on her dog's nose obviously didn't do a thing. Petey's nose was like that for years and the vet could not figure out the problem. Just kept dinging her pocketbook for more $ for stuff that didn't work. He had it summer AND winter so go figure that out. Petey's nose now some 4 months after having SW daubed on it has not had a reoccurance of the chaping or peeling.
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    Jun 29, 2011, 05:01 PM

    I don't understand how you have money to make silver water but not money to find out why your dogs nose is sore and chapped? Twinkie mentioned it was expensive, probably more so than a visit to the vet. Yikes, Rebeccah, dogs cost money, so you are going to have to be prepared to spend some dough to keep a healthy dog. I'm not discouraging you from making the SW, but consider your priorities.

    Like Judy mentioned, it really could be anything from allergies to an illness. And like Cat mentioned, you need to find out WHY this is happening to prevent it in the first place. No one can tell you besides your vet.
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    Jun 29, 2011, 05:12 PM

    You're getting the only advice we can give, and that's to go to a vet.

    If you can't afford a vet then you should consider giving your dog to someone that can. Dogs aren't cheap. Vet bills aren't cheap.

    Putting silver water on it may help. I can't say. I've never used it.

    The fact is, clearing the issue up isn't nearly as important as finding out why it's happening. You need to find out what's going on so that the correct treatment can be given.

    Go to the vet, or find someone that is willing to adopt your dog, that can afford to go to the vet. Caring for the physical well being of our pets is part of having a pet. A huge part. If you can't do that then you aren't ready to have a pet in your life.

    Harsh but true.
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    Jun 29, 2011, 05:15 PM

    At least go to the vet to find out why it's happening, and if the vet okay's the use of SW purchase or make some, but if it's an allergy, it's redundant to keep the product or food around for your dog.
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    Jun 30, 2011, 08:26 AM
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    OK I won't thanks. I just put it on my mouth for my cold sores and my doctor never told me not to and it's always worked for me. I never knew. Thanks for the advice. I won't do it anymore.
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    Jun 30, 2011, 08:27 AM
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    Ok. My boyfriend gets paid Friday I will have him take her in Monday!
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    Jun 30, 2011, 08:36 AM
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    Yeah! I'm going to try the water first! I'm going to talk to my ex's dad. I'm really good friends with him mom, dad, and sis's lol. But yeah I didn't know that it was good for all of that. The lady that I got her from told my boyfriend that her vet said that its normal for those type of dogs to be like that. My boyfriend told me last night when we were talking about it she told him to just put lotion on it lol. Well it was cracking lol that would HURT lol. I'm not doing that. That's why I chose Vasiline. I will call his dad later to day and he will come over probably today to tonight:) thanks:) My boyfriend has foot problems I will recommend it to him also! And I want it for my hair if it really works lol and my teeth lol. I'm happy the Jack Russell Is REALLY good! Thanks again:)
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    Jun 30, 2011, 08:37 AM
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    OK people hold on. I'm going to use the silver water but also taking her to the vet on Monday after my boyfriend gets paid. We have already talked about it.:)
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    Jun 30, 2011, 06:44 PM

    I called up my girlfriend and found out exactly what caused the nose problem of Petey. It seems he had a staph infection and the wonderful, pricey vet could not heal this up. Says a lot about the vet's annuity on poor Petey over the years. No, it was nothing he was allergic to. Since when do dogs or cats suddendly get allergic to food, bedding, etc. when they lived in the wild as wild animals and were not pampered like they are now.

    I am of the ilk who does not go to the doctor every time I sneeze funny nor do I drag my Dink to the vets for every little thing. I am not a MedHead (unlike some other members on here I know who think that doctors and vets are literally gods who have all the answers to every problem.)

    Just wanting a pet and taking care of a pet should not put an undue financial burden on the owner. I commend anyone who goes to a shelter and adopts a pet and then takes good care of it by loving it, feeding and watering it, taking it for walks, etc, and trying to maintain a healthy pet. Vets are not cheap, especially for a family who has a strict budget to adhere to.

    This nice lady came here to AMHD to hopefully get a clue as to how to heal her puppy's nose up, not get lectured about dragging the poor animal to the vet every other jerk.

    Please give us a follow up on your pug's nose condition. I would not have mentioned SW unless I knew it would work.
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    Jun 30, 2011, 07:16 PM

    Just wanting a pet and taking care of a pet should not put an undue financial burden on the owner. I commend anyone who goes to a shelter and adopts a pet and then takes good care of it by loving it, feeding and watering it, taking it for walks, etc, and trying to maintain a healthy pet. Vets are not cheap, especially for a family who has a strict budget to adhere to.

    This nice lady came here to AMHD to hopefully get a clue as to how to heal her puppy's nose up, not get lectured about dragging the poor animal to the vet every other jerk.
    Twinky, you're assuming that the OP's dog has the same thing your friend's dog had. That's a very dangerous assumption.

    No, vets aren't Gods, but when your animal has a medical issue, that animal should be seen by a medical professional, and not diagnosed or treated online when no one online can possibly have a clue what's going on to cause this irritation.

    I'm not saying that SW won't work. It very well may, but will it cure the problem, or just temporarily heal the condition? Since no one on this site can give a diagnosis, there's no way to say that SW will be a permanent cure.

    You may not advocate going to a vet. That's fine if that's what you want to do for your pets. On this site however, conventional medicine is the only thing we can advocate, for the well being of the pet.

    To do anything else would be to jeopardize the animal, and none of us is willing to do that.

    Since when do dogs or cats suddendly get allergic to food, bedding, etc. when they lived in the wild as wild animals and were not pampered like they are now.
    Pets began having allergies exactly when they started living with people. In the wild they can choose what to eat, where to sleep, etc. etc. In our homes they eat what we feed them, sleep where we place them, and they do indeed develop allergies, just like people do.
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    Jun 30, 2011, 08:34 PM
    We do love her! She has more than pleanty of food! Never runs out! Every day has fresh water! Always gets love! House trained! If goes potty in the house by accendent Don't hit her EVER! I still treat her! I always give her treats. I never put her on a leash except in public. Other wise I'm out side with her when she's out there and she never leaves the yard. She's never bit anyone. LOVES kids and dogs! Loves cats! I take walk her every weekend or my boyfriend does if I can't cause of my seizures. I will give you a follow up on her. Her name is otie by the way I named her from Milo and Otis :):)
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    Jul 1, 2011, 06:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    I called up my gf and found out exactly what caused the nose problem of Petey. It seems he had a staph infection and the wonderful, pricey vet could not heal this up. Says a lot about the vet's annuity on poor Petey over the years. No, it was nothing he was allergic to. Since when do dogs or cats suddendly get allergic to food, bedding, etc. when they lived in the wild as wild animals and were not pampered like they are now.

    I am of the ilk who does not go to the doctor every time I sneeze funny nor do I drag my Dink to the vets for every little thing. I am not a MedHead (unlike some other members on here I know who think that doctors and vets are literally gods who have all the answers to every problem.)

    Just wanting a pet and taking care of a pet should not put an undue financial burden on the owner. I commend anyone who goes to a shelter and adopts a pet and then takes good care of it by loving it, feeding and watering it, taking it for walks, etc, and trying to maintain a healthy pet. Vets are not cheap, especially for a family who has a strict budget to adhere to.

    This nice lady came here to AMHD to hopefully get a clue as to how to heal her puppy's nose up, not get lectured about dragging the poor animal to the vet every other jerk.

    Please give us a follow up on your pug's nose condition. I would not have mentioned SW unless I knew it would work.

    Twinkie - no one here said Doctors and Vets are Gods, not that I know of, at least. I don't know "since when" dogs and cats became allergic - maybe since nature stopped weeding out those with undeveloped immune systems thanks to the wonders of medicine. I HAVE a severely allergic dog, which I think you know. I wish it were some other way... but she's a severely allergic dog.

    I don't know if I'm a "medhead," although it is an interesting term.

    I think it's highly dangerous to use human medication/preparations on an animal if you don't know if that medication/preparation is toxic to that ANIMAL or not. Dogs and cats die every day when given Tylenol and similar products instead of aspirin. I would put antibiotic cream in that category.

    I think owning a pet costs money. That's a fact that I think we can all agree with. Like it or not at times they DO cost money. Yes, it's unfortunate and right now times are tough, BUT if you can't afford proper treatment for your pet, don't get a pet. It's harsh but it's true.

    I trust that the late owner who gave her cherished pet to this "nice lady" thought the "nice lady" would care for it and not allow it to be sick or injured or hurting. Perhaps the owner would have found someone else who would care for the dog in a different maner had she seen into the future.

    This brings up, of course, the whole topic of where any of us want our pets to be placed if we die. Another topic for another time.

    Your friend was fortunate when it came to her dog - but it COULD have been cancer, a thyroid problem, something else. It's good that her dog recovered, very good, without traditional medical intervention.

    Some of the information given to this "nice lady" is based on her other threads, other questions, other topics. You know it's not uncommon to sort of read up on where someone is coming from - so that's nothing unusual here.

    I respect your point of view and always have. I think you know that. I consider you a friend. You also know that.

    I don't agree with you on this one, though.
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    Jul 4, 2011, 12:58 PM
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    You don't need to be a 'medhead' to want to take proper care of your pet.
    While it's fantastic to adopt a pet from a shelter, you do need to take into account financial aspects, as its unfair to keep a dog poorly (whilst love, care and attention are crucial, it needs proper care too, you wouldn't give this advice to someone asking about their child instead of a dog)

    To anyone considering adopting or buying a dog, they are expensive to care for properly. And its strongly advisable to take out pet insurance, so if anything does go wrong, your vets bills won't affect you as badly.

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