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Jun 8, 2011, 02:20 AM
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You wrongly equate intelligence with success in politics.
Not me... I'm not the one who's saying she's too stupid to be President.
As to their candidates being Ivy League, wasn't Bush supposed to be a skull? It's who you know, not what you know
Perhaps his legacy status helped him gain admission... I don't have proof either way . But he is a graduate of both Yale and Harvard Business School(MBA). That my friend was on merit.
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Jun 8, 2011, 06:38 AM
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From Walter Williams' column today:
There are a lot of things, large and small, that irk me. One of them is our tendency to evaluate a presidential candidate based on his intelligence or academic credentials. When Obama threw his hat in the ring, people thought he was articulate and smart and hailed his intellectual credentials. Just recently, when Newt Gingrich announced his candidacy, people hailed his intellectual credentials and smartness as well.
By contrast, the intellectual elite and mainstream media people see Sarah Palin as stupid, a loose cannon and not to be trusted with our nuclear arsenal. There was another presidential candidate who was also held to be stupid and not to be trusted with our nuclear arsenal who ultimately became president -- Ronald Reagan. I don't put much stock into whether a political leader is smart or not because, as George Orwell explained, "Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them."
All the evidence that I see is that academics and intellectuals have messed up the world. I challenge anyone to show me a major calamity that was engineered by a stupid, inarticulate person, but those caused by intelligent, articulate persons are too numerous to count, from the likes of Hitler, Stalin and Mao to Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Obama.
My vision of a good presidential candidate is a person with ordinary intelligence but great respect and love for our Constitution.
Yep, intellectuals have messed up the world.
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Jun 8, 2011, 06:47 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yep, intellectuals have messed up the world.
Hello again, Steve:
So, the answer is to turn it over to a dunce... That's a good plan..
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Jun 8, 2011, 07:00 AM
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I never said that. I don't want Palin in this election, I don't want Bachmann in this election. They aren't dummies, but the media and other progressives will beat them mercilessly and for that reason alone I find them to be liabilities to the cause of beating Obama. Unless of course they get a sympathy vote after things like this:
Sometimes there is a line that is crossed between what appropriate for comedy and what’s likely off limits. But did comic Christopher Titus cross that line?
In an appearance on Monday’s “The Adam Carolla Show” podcast, Titus may have waded into that territory. In responding to a question about former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” in which Palin defended her interpretation of what happened during Paul Revere’s pre-Revolutionary War famous ride, Titus launched into a description of what he would do if Palin were elected.
“You know what man?” Titus said. “I am going to literally — if she gets elected president, I am going to hang out on the grassy knoll all the time, just loaded and ready — because you know what? It’s for my country. It’s for my country. If I got to sacrifice myself, it’s for my country.”
Where's the outrage?
By the way, WaPo-ABC News poll shows Romney ahead of Obama 49-46 among registered voters.
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Jun 8, 2011, 07:09 AM
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Hello again:
I don't know WHERE this discussion is going... Sarah Palin, along with our resident right wingers, said she was RIGHT, but the question was a gotcha... But, if she was RIGHT, she's the one who GOT the press.
Plus, in your article above, you seem to be saying, yes, she's stupid, but look at what all the smart people have done...
So, I don't know if you AGREE that she's an idiot, or you now think that idiots should get their chance...
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Jun 8, 2011, 07:59 AM
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I can't think of one reason I'd take 'Think Progress ' seriously.
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Jun 8, 2011, 09:40 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
I can't think of one reason I'd take 'Think Progress ' seriously.
Oh the hypocrisy of the conservatives on this board. LOL!
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Jun 8, 2011, 09:43 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Oh the hypocrisy of the conservatives on this board. LOL!
Good thing you can amuse yourself, you make no sense to the rest of us.
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Jun 8, 2011, 09:52 AM
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I thought you'd selectively forget. :)
Are you and tom the same person?
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Jun 8, 2011, 10:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I thought you'd selectively forget. :)
No, since you're the official board monitor of approved sources you think it's hypocritical for tom to discredit a source. There's a difference between discrediting a source here and there and trying to discredit every source.
Are you and tom the same person?
What a stupid question.
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Jun 8, 2011, 11:12 AM
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No reason to... they don't understand a growth policy or how tax cuts grow the economy and increase government revenues... and they never will .
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Jun 8, 2011, 11:36 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
No reason to .... they don't understand a growth policy or how tax cuts grow the economy and increase government revenues ...and they never will .
They explain their methods and show their sources (which are the IRS, CBO and Tax Policy Center). Did you even read the article?
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Jun 8, 2011, 11:50 AM
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How could they get a CBO ,IRS and Tax Policy Center assessment of the Pawlenty plan when he only made the speech yesterday ?
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Jun 8, 2011, 12:08 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
how could they get a CBO ,IRS and Tax Policy Center assessment of the Pawlenty plan when he only made the speech yesterday ?
They used their data for their research and extrapolation. Really? You didn't get that? It says it right in the article.
Which part of it made you a believer? You can cite your sources as well if you wish.
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Jun 8, 2011, 12:15 PM
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Again ;they have no clue... they are fixated on progressive tax rates .
TPAW's plan is for a two tier flat tax . They call it a tax cut for the rich when in fact the biggest benefits goes to those in the lower tier.
Like I said ;they have no clue about growth. They think the economy is a zero sum game .Their assumptions are all wrong . Expansion of the economy is the goal . Government revenues increase as the economy grows . So their claim of loss of gvt. Revenue is only true if the result isn't expansion . Got it ?
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Jun 8, 2011, 12:18 PM
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So where is PAWS plan to expand the economy since it is crucial for his plan to succeed that he does?
You're making a huge assumption that the economy will expand when it's much safer these days to plan for a stagnant economy.
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Jun 8, 2011, 01:35 PM
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Its so easy to state high hopes and good intentions in a broad way, but the devil is in the details, and T-Paw wasn't all that great as a govenor of Minnesota.
Tim Pawlenty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Former Minnesota Governor Arne Carlson, an Independent Republican, criticized Pawlenty's budget strategy: he borrowed more than $1 billion from the tobacco settlement (money set aside for heath care), borrowed more than $1.4 billion from K-12 education funding, borrowed more than $400 [million][64] from the Health Care Access Fund for low-income families, among other short-term shifts in accounting. The result was a $5 billion deficit, the seventh largest in the United States.[65] Minnesota property taxes rose $2.5 billion, more than the previous 16 years combined, and Moody's lowered the state's bond rating.[66]
DNC Attacks Pawlentys Record : Roll Call Politics
NationalJournal.com - Is Pawlenty Telling the Truth About His Record? - Monday, May 23, 2011
But it’s also true that in his last year in office, the governor balanced the books by using $2.3 billion in federal stimulus money and what the nonpartisan Minnesota Taxpayers Association called “budgetary duct tape”—shifting $1.4 billion in school-aid payments; delaying $152 million in sales and corporate income-tax refunds; raiding $124 million from state funds meant for other purposes; and resorting to other accounting tricks.
You think the Dems ain't smacking their chops on T-Paw??
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