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    #61

    Apr 27, 2011, 08:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Curlyben View Post
    Errrm, isn't it all a bit late and rather academic anyway.
    Mr Obama was duly elected to serve as president and that is exactly what he is doing.
    The press release that accompanied it said that the birth certificate topic has become divisive and the discussion so off-the-chart (i.e. by potential presidential candidate Trump). The intent is to steer public discussion to the important concerns of the economy, the wars, gas prices, etc.
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    #62

    Apr 27, 2011, 08:50 AM

    Hello again,

    The issue was NEVER about his birth certificate... To the birthers, it's about Obama not being one of us. This won't change that.

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    Apr 27, 2011, 09:48 AM

    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The press release that accompanied it said that the birth certificate topic has become divisive and the discussion so off-the-chart (i.e. by potential presidential candidate Trump). The intent is to steer public discussion to the important concerns of the economy, the wars, gas prices, etc.
    Bwaaahaaaahaaaa . Then he got on the plane to interview with Oprah... so much for those important concerns.

    He could've done this during the 2008 season .The reason he finally put the nonsense to rest is because of the polling data Ex mentioned... that the issue was gaining traction.

    Hello again,

    The issue was NEVER about his birth certificate... To the birthers, it's about Obama not being one of us. This won't change that.

    Excon
    Probably right. But wait how much hay his campaign makes when they claim "they(bitter clingers ???) " are trying to fire the 1st Black President. Both sides play that card well.
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    Apr 27, 2011, 10:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Both sides play that card well.
    Hello again, tom:

    There was a political consideration about this release, to be sure... I guess we'll see if it was the right calculation.. Frankly, I think they were ahead of the game when people like Krauthammer and Rove were calling Trump a clown. The Obama offense was being taken up by the stalwart GOP. He was winning by shutting up. He didn't need to chime in. Chiming in is playing defense...

    Besides, if you were Obama, wouldn't you LOVE to run against Trump? They should have let that happen.

    excon
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    Apr 27, 2011, 10:40 AM

    Agreed . But my best guess is that Trump was/is not a candidate . I bet the ratings on his show is up.
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    Apr 27, 2011, 11:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Besides, if you were Obama, wouldn't you LOVE to run against Trump? They should have let that happen.
    Trump is now a hero. He forced Obama's hand.
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    #67

    Apr 27, 2011, 05:07 PM

    Personally, I wish Trump and Obama would both go away. Now if we can just end this Trig truther crap we could move on.
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    Apr 27, 2011, 05:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Trump is now a hero. He forced Obama's hand.
    He played into Obama's hand . I won't rest until Trump gone from the political scene . What does Trump and Obama have in common ? They both found common ground in attacking Paul Ryan last week .
    Oh yeah... and they both supported Rhambo's mayor run.

    What is Trump's plan for Medicare ? Slap tariffs on China ? He's a 'Smoot-Hawley' Republican .
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    Apr 28, 2011, 07:40 AM

    Well has the matter been put beyond doubt? Or are we going to find out how this dumb black boy who rose to be president could possibily have been accepted into Harvard? Trump your racism is showing
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    Apr 28, 2011, 07:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    well has the matter been put beyond doubt?
    Hello clete:

    Conspiracy theorists never let the facts stand in the way. Didja hear about those weirdos who believe the worlds scientists concocted a story about global warming?

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    Apr 28, 2011, 08:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    well has the matter been put beyond doubt? or are we going to find out how this dumb black boy who rose to be president could possibily have been accepted into Harvard? Trump your racism is showing
    Pandering to the fears of the uninformed is the only way he can get the attention he craves. Any fear will do!
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    #72

    Apr 28, 2011, 08:25 AM

    That's true ex, I just read in my paper a week or so ago that we went to Iraq for the oil.
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    Apr 28, 2011, 08:31 AM

    We know he's not a 'dumb black boy' (Clete's words ).. because Joe Biden told us he isn't .

    “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” ...“I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
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    Apr 28, 2011, 08:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That's true ex, I just read in my paper a week or so ago that we went to Iraq for the oil.
    We did, Saddam had cut secret deals with France and Russia and it made W mad as all get out!!

    Oil-for-Food Programme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    BBC NEWS | Business | France's economic ties to Iraq

    Bush's Pre-War Iraq Oil Deals Alarmed BP | Informed Comment

    Bush didn't like Iraq cutting his own deals, and he was locked out of the money.

    The rest is history, ongoing I might add.
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    Apr 28, 2011, 08:49 AM

    So Bush didn't like the fact that the Europeans and Russians were violating the terms of the 'Oil for Food Program' that was destroying the sanction regime that they expected the US to enforce ?
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    Apr 28, 2011, 08:53 AM
    Yep!!
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    Apr 28, 2011, 09:41 AM

    ... and the nations that were being enriched by violating the 'Oil for Food Program', that the corrupt Kofi Annan clan was administering,were also the nations that led the opposition to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    Yep!!
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    Apr 28, 2011, 05:08 PM

    Hi ex Yes I heard that one, but the scary part is it happens to be true
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    Apr 28, 2011, 05:39 PM

    Lets see the leading scientists of the hypothesis manipulated data to support a preconceived conclusion ;suppressed any evidence that ran counter to their hypothesis ,and then emailed each other bragging how they did it... no conspiracy there .
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    Apr 28, 2011, 06:54 PM

    Follow the money!! Who gets the oil that the French and Russians were cut out of??

    You guessed it George did, and Tony, and the Chinese are right in the thick of things.

    Just because its not in the news anymore doesn't mean the war is over.

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