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    #21

    Apr 15, 2011, 09:27 AM

    Really I vote for the person who has the best idea's. When I moved out of Philly and into the 'Burbs I actually voted for one Republican the past two elections Frank Farry State Rep. The D that was in there Chris King was an idiot and then the D that Ran against him the last election had no idea's only smears.
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    Apr 15, 2011, 10:12 AM

    It has been my argument that this is not about blind allegiance to party . It is philosophical.

    The recent Planned Parenthood funding vote in the Senate makes the case.
    1. Blind loyalty to party.
    The following Senators toed the party line even though they are self-professed pro-lifers... Sen. Joe Manchin, Sen. Ben Nelson, and Sen. Bob Casey.

    2. These Republicans I would never vote for under any circumstances. Scott Brown , Susan Collins,Mark Kirk ,Lisa Murkowski ,and Olympia Snowe-job.

    I would never vote for any of them . Why not ? Because they crossed the aisle ,weighed the issues ,straddled the fence ,and in the end voted to fund an organization that kills babies.
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    Apr 18, 2011, 07:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I for one find it had to believe that people who thoughtfully examine the issues can be firmly on one side of the divide on some issues ,and on the other side on others .
    Hello again, tom:

    Maybe it's because we don't agree on the very BASIC duty of our president. I say it's to defend the Constitution.. You say it's to defend the country. Therein LIES a HUGE divide. We've argued that idea endlessly here and I don't think either of us has made any headway.

    And the differences are becoming STARKER. If it was not clear before, it is obvious now that the right wing is fully engaged in a project to dismantle the foundations of the New Deal and the Great Society, and to liberate business and the rich from the inconvenience of oversight or taxes.

    NOBODY could be in the MIDDLE about ANY of this, could they??

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    Apr 18, 2011, 11:30 AM

    I completely dispute the charaterization of what the 'right wing ' believes.
    Pehaps that's the problem. We are living in Babel.
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    Apr 18, 2011, 11:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I completely dispute the charaterization of what the 'right wing ' believes.
    You should read Smoothy's posts on what he characterizes as the beliefs of the "left"!

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