[speechlesstx]

In response to the Tucson shooting (keep getting better Gabby) and in the midst of all the irresponsible rhetoric on the left blaming it on those mean right-wingers (do they never get the irony?), our president in one of his better moments called for a "new era of civility."

How we doing so far? So far during the budget debate, "tea party extremists" has remained the favorite Democrat slur, Schumer has likened conservatives to fleas, Reid said Republicans want to "throw women under the bus" and Louise Slaughter says those nasty Nazis just want to kill them.

I'd say that's progress.

[excon]

Hello Steve:

The Tea Party IS extreme. The Republicans WERE willing to throw women under the bus, and I don't know who Louise Slaughter is, and I don't care.

Why is being called extreme NOT a compliment? I'm extreme. I like it that way. If somebody said I WASN'T extreme, that would be a diss.

excon

[tomder55]

Well they mean the word as a pejorative. Schumer in a rare moment of honesty (when he thought he wasn't being recorded ) admitted that the use of the word 'extreme' was a talking point that he was directed to use in the debate.

My question is :don't they get tired of unleashing the same old tired rhetoric ? The Dems won't even sign on to becoming better managers of their failed policies. Any cut ,regardless of how thin it is an assault on the program? I don't get that. Why don't they try this one... there is enough inefficiency in how our social programs are administered ,that with more efficient management ,budgets can be cut without negatively effecting the level of service.

[speechlesstx]

Tom, that would require more honesty and I don't foresee that any time soon.

[excon]

admitted that the use of the word 'extreme' was a talking point that he was directed to use in the debate.

Hello again, tom:

More than Frank Luntz directed the Republicans to use words like "government takeover", and "job killing _____ (fill in the blank)"??

Nahhh. It's about equal... I'm amazed, though, that you guys are unable to recognize that you do the same stuff as the guys you complain about...

excon

[speechlesstx]

"Government takeover", and "job killing _____" is one thing, telling the public that Nazi Republicans want to "kill women" or "die quickly" or starve 6 million seniors is another.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Yeah, you wingers are much more polite than those bastard dems...

Do you know the difference between liberals and conservatives? Liberals THINK they're right. Conservatives KNOW they're right.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Or in other words, conservatives live in reality, dems live in fantasy world. :D

[excon]

Or in other words, conservatives live in reality, dems live in fantasy world. :D

Hello again, Steve:

Actually, Steve, when you KNOW you're right, you're mostly WRONG.

Speaking of Planned Parenthood, here's John Kyle KNOWING he's right, but being oh sooooo WRONG. The fact is, only 3% of their budget is directed at abortion, and that 3% is PRIVATELY funded, since it's ALREADY against the law for ANY federal money to be used for abortion.

But, John Kyle, KNOWING that what he heard, or what somebody told him, had to be right, because he BELIEVED it. Knowing he was right prevented him from even the slightest bit of investigation... Why check out something that you KNOW is right, thinks a conservative like Kyle. That's of course, pompous and arrogant and WRONG! So, if THAT'S the reality you're referring to, you can have it.

Besides, if you wanted to AVOID more abortions, you'd think you'd be cool with MORE contraceptives being handed out... But, nooo. Instead, you're fine with 200,000 poor women having unwanted pregnancies, while those who can afford it, plan their family's just fine.

So, if YOUR reality is, that it's just hunky dory for RICH people to have access to heath care, but NOT the poor, you can take your reality and stick it.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Speaking of Planned Parenthood...

I got numbers, too, and they don't agree with yours.

Exposing the Planned Parenthood business model
By Abby Johnson - 04/04/11 02:43 PM ET

Myths about Planned Parenthood are spreading like grassfire. Thanks to a perfect storm of events, the abortion provider is scrambling to cauterize the biggest PR hit it has ever sustained. November’s election of an overwhelmingly pro-life Congress, revelation of numerous violations by its staff and repeated calls for its defunding by social and fiscal conservatives alike have put Planned Parenthood’s lifeblood on the line.

Planned Parenthood’s bottom line is numbers. And, with abortion as its primary money-maker, that means implementing a quota. I know this is true because I worked at one of their Texas clinics for 8 years, two as the clinic director.

Though 98 percent of Planned Parenthood’s services to pregnant women are abortion, Planned Parenthood and its political allies have sworn up and down that taxpayer dollars do not to pay for abortion. But of course they do. Planned Parenthood gets one-third of its entire budget from taxpayer funding and performed more than 650,000 abortions between 2008 and 2009. An abortion is expensive. Its cost includes pay for the doctor, supporting medical staff, their health benefits packages and malpractice insurance. As clinic director, I saw how money affiliate clinics receive from several sources is combined into one pot, not set aside for specific services.

Planned Parenthood’s claim that abortions make up just 3 percent of its services is also a gimmick. That number is actually closer to 12 percent, but strategically skewed by unbundling family planning services so that each patient shows anywhere from five to 20 “visits” per appointment (i.e., 12 packs of birth control equals 12 visits) and doing the opposite with abortion visits, bundling them together so that each appointment equals one visit. The resulting difference between family planning and abortion “visits” is striking.

But that’s not the only deception Planned Parenthood is spreading.

It also claims to help reduce the number of abortions. Not only is this not what Planned Parenthood actually accomplishes, but its goal couldn’t be more opposite. As a Planned Parenthood clinic manager, I was directed to double the number of abortions our clinic performed in order to drive up revenue. In keeping, Planned Parenthood headquarters recently issued a directive mandating that all of its affiliates provide abortions by 2013.

Planned Parenthood is also spending a lot of money convincing its primary income providers – taxpayers – that its highest priority is women's health and safety. Live Action and the Expose Planned Parenthood coalition released numerous undercover videos showing clinic staff aiding and abetting alleged sex traffickers in exploiting underage girls – some as young as 14.

After initially downplaying the first video as a scam, Planned Parenthood of Central New Jersey came under so much pressure that it fired the office manager in the footage. New Jersey Attorney General Paula Dow quickly called for an investigation, but Planned Parenthood’s problems don’t end with firing one office manager. Later Live Action videos revealed an unbroken chain of similar problems in clinics up and down the East Coast.

Planned Parenthood has found other ways to increase revenue at the expense of women’s safety. Abortion consultations are now often done without a doctor in the room through online “telemedicine.” Abortion is a severely traumatic and potentially dangerous procedure. Even as Planned Parenthood's 2008 Employee of the Year, I saw this aggressive push toward more “efficient” telemedicine as risky.

Another nuisance the organization is seeking to do away with is reporting sex abuse of minors. It has sued to overturn a child abuse reporting law applying to minors under 14 on the grounds that it violated a girl’s “constitutional right to privacy.” Planned Parenthood called the bill unnecessary given that its medical personnel are already obliged to report such matters and that filing additional reports would only “overload” the government. Planned Parenthood doesn’t want to bother the government with protecting minors.

It also can’t be bothered to enable women to make informed decisions. Planned Parenthood has adamantly opposed laws in nearly two dozen states that require clinic staff to show a woman a sonogram before an abortion. With all the supposed health services these clinics provide, why should they fear sonograms? Because they cut down on its biggest income source.

With the Continuing Resolution battle before us, we can, at very least, stop making taxpayers perpetuate a culture that puts profit margins before women’s safety. Congress has and must seize the opportunity to stop directing hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to recipients who deliberately deceive the public and violate federal law.

I joined Planned Parenthood because I wanted to help poor women with real health care needs. I still do -- that’s why I left. Planned Parenthood doesn’t care about women’s health care needs, it cares about abortion.

It’s time to defund Planned Parenthood of our tax dollars.

Abby Johnson worked at Planned Parenthood's Bryan, Texas, clinic for eight years and was clinic director for more than two years. She is author of "Unplanned: The Dramatic True Story of a Former Planned Parenthood Leader's Eye-Opening Journey Across the Life Line."

[excon]

Hello Steve:

Doya agree with THESE numbers?

Gotswana Playasaurs - 42 points.

Green Chile Cheeseburgers - 33.5 points.

excon

[tomder55]

PP performed 332,278 abortions in the United States in 2009.That's 910 lives snuffed per day.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/fil...P_Services.pdf
The real lie is that a lack of contraception results in increased abortions and /or unwanted pregnencies .

PP had a total revenue of $1.1 billion for it's "services " last year and did nothing to prevent either unwanted pregnancies or abortions. With the taxpayers footing 36 percent of PP's total annual funding it is hard to believe ,given the fungible nature of money ,that none of it was used for abortion.

So for $40 billion in cuts ,the Dems drew the line in the sand ,and went into some of their most vitriolic slurs $300 million that goes to PP.
Interesting .

Anyway ,the Republicans lost that battle last night because they lost their nerve. They shelved the rider and will take up the issue separately . But they will lose again because the Dems are willing to go to the mat over the issue.

[cdad]

Hello Steve:

Doya agree with THESE numbers?

Gotswana Playasaurs - 42 points.

Green Chile Cheeseburgers - 33.5 points.

excon

Speaking of numbers. You might find these articles an interesting read.

Planned Parenthood, abortion and the budget fight - Forbes.com


The PJ Tatler Open Secret: Planned Parenthood turns tax dollars into donations to Democrats

[NeedKarma]

Why does the US make cuts to their incredible Defense budget if they need to save money?

[paraclete]

Karma you know they need to defend themselves from all those powerful opponents out there. MAD is still in place to protect from Afghan Mullahs and Daffy Duck, who are waiting to take over a nation riddled with financial problems

[excon]

The real lie is that a lack of contraception results in increased abortions and /or unwanted pregnencies .

Hello again, tom and dad:

I'm not going to argue numbers, because I believe abortion should be available to anyone who wants one. I doubt Planned Parenthood cheats, but I don't care if they do.

excon

[cdad]

Hello again, tom and dad:

I'm not going to argue numbers, because I believe abortion should be available to anyone who wants one. I doubt Planned Parenthood cheats, but I don't care if they do.

excon

If you had read the links you would see some strange goings on. The first link from Forbes supports your 3% claim. What I found surprising is somehow they gave away 700 million dollars and still had enough money left over to not fund from what the government gave them. It was an interesting read.

[speechlesstx]

Hello Steve:

Doya agree with THESE numbers?

Gotswana Playasaurs - 42 points.

Green Chile Cheeseburgers - 33.5 points.

excon

Yes I do. At least I'm not last.

[tomder55]

NK and Clete.

A more careful analysis would show that the military has done some tremendous trimming of it's budget over the last 20 years . They have made the hard choices the rest of the bloated bureaucracy has failed to make ;and will continue to do so.

In fact,BRAC is the template the rest of the Federal Government should adopt.
The BRAC Model for Spending Reform | Mercatus

[speechlesstx]

I doubt Planned Parenthood cheats, but I don't care if they do.

I can't think of a more scummy organization in America, and I don't want them to have another penny of mine.