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HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 08:17 PM

ITstudent2006]... HSB, you dodge questions with cunning counters and well thought out phrases to throw the topic. You have yet to answer a question regarding your beliefs and how they came to be. You acknowledge them; which in noble, but you dance around them (like a coward).

Your observation may well be accurate. I do not look at my answers here as an opportunity to display my personal beliefs. I am not any kind of an authority. My mission is to point people into the Bible as the authority. And to warn them that May 21, 2011 will be the Day of Judgment.

I leave evaluation of personal issues to those who are wiser and more powerful than I.

ITstudent2006 · Apr 2, 2011, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy

Y I do not look at my answers here as an opportunity to display my personal beliefs

And to warn them that May 21, 2011 will be the Day of Judgment.

Your first quote clearly says you are not here to spread your belief and that your answers should not be sought after as such. However, your second quote (which closely followed the first) clearly states your personal opinion/belief.

So please, enlighten me. You have talked yourself into a huge circle I am ever more excited to see you dance out of! Dance puppet... dance!

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 08:53 PM

Depressed in MO: Furthermore, if it is indeed going to end then, how do you know YOU are going to be accepted by God??

The answer to this particular question is... I don't know for sure whether God will accept me. But my knowing my personal status with God is not the issue.

The really important thing is what does the Bible say about how we can become saved.

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 09:05 PM

ITstudent2006: So please, enlighten me. You have talked yourself into a huge circle I am ever more excited to see you dance out of! Dance puppet... dance!

Let me be even more explicit. I do not intend to enlighten anyone. I am not a guru or a spiritual leader of any kind. But I do have a sense of mission. The Bible gives ample reference, and many passages, that when understood in a particular way... clearly point to May 21, 2011 as the Day of Judgment. I do not see it as my mission to convince you at all. God does all the convincing, or not.

However, to the best of my ability I'll try to answer any specific question you may have about the Bible, and references in it that point to May 21, 2011. There are many.

Wondergirl · Apr 2, 2011, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy

Your observation may well be accurate. I do not look at my answers here as an opportunity to display my personal beliefs.

But you HAVE displayed your personal beliefs. What we all would like to know is why did you discard what you used to believe and decide to embrace those new beliefs?

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 09:46 PM

Quoting HeadStrongBoy:
Your observation may well be accurate. I do not look at my answers here as an opportunity to display my personal beliefs. But you HAVE displayed your personal beliefs. What we all would like to know is why did you discard what you used to believe and decide to embrace those new beliefs?

Thanks for your interest. Much as I'm flattered, I'm not about to begin writing my auto-biography here. The important thing is... how does the Bible show that May 21, 2011 will be the Day of Judgment ? And how can I escape God's wrath ?

Wondergirl · Apr 2, 2011, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy

Thanks for your interest.

Your quoting system is messed up.

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 10:03 PM

Depressed: The way I was always taught, no one knows/will know when the end is near, where do you and your people get the facts? What do you base it on?

Ecclesiastes 8:5 says:"Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing. And a wise man's heart discerneth (shall know) both time and judgment." These words are from the mouth of God Himself. Though He gave them to Solomon who turned out to be an unsaved person at the end of his life. The controversy, as I see it, centers on the issue of whether "time and judgment" can be applied to May 21, 2011 or not.

The answer is that it can because that verse does not stand by itself. There are many other passages that support that kind of interpretation.

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 10:09 PM

Wondergirl: "Your quoting system is messed up."

You have a right to your opinion.

Actually I have not specified that I'm following a particular system of quoting the Bible. But there are some explicit principles (rules from the Bible) that I do try to follow. I'd be happy to enumerate them for you, should you wish to see them.

Wondergirl · Apr 2, 2011, 10:14 PM

Your quoting of posts on this site is messed up.

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 10:16 PM

Oh... did you mean quoting the previous posting ? Yes. I made a technical error.

Wondergirl · Apr 2, 2011, 10:18 PM

Not this:

Quoting HeadStrongBoy:
Your observation may well be accurate. I do not look at my answers here as an opportunity to display my personal beliefs. But you HAVE displayed your personal beliefs. What we all would like to know is why did you discard what you used to believe and decide to embrace those new beliefs?

But this:

Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy

Your observation may well be accurate. I do not look at my answers here as an opportunity to display my personal beliefs.

Originally Posted by WG

But you HAVE displayed your personal beliefs. What we all would like to know is why did you discard what you used to believe and decide to embrace those new beliefs?

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 10:19 PM

As you've noticed I also made some spelling errors lately. I did ask the admins for a spell checker, but some other members are actually proud of their improper spellings.

Wondergirl · Apr 2, 2011, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by HSB

Oh....did you mean quoting the previous posting ? Yes. I made a technical error.

It's good to correct our errors. May 21st is fast approaching.

Wondergirl · Apr 2, 2011, 10:22 PM

Click on your browser's spellchecker.

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 10:28 PM

Wondergirl: It's good to correct our errors. May 21st is fast approaching.

I agree. And it's true that I have expressed my beliefs before. But I think that my beliefs should not be the focus, or center of attention anymore. I am trying to turn over a new leaf. I would like to be as faithful as possible to the Bible, the whole Bible, both Old Testament and New Testament. Following the rule of comparing "spiritual things with spiritual." That means accepting no doctrine without looking at all parts of the Bible that relate to it.

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 2, 2011, 10:31 PM

I did it again. I don't think my browser has a spell checker. If it does, I don't know yet how to activate it.

dwashbur · Apr 2, 2011, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy

Thanks for your interest. Much as I'm flattered, I'm not about to begin writing my auto-biography here. The important thing is....how does the Bible show that May 21, 2011 will be the Day of Judgment ? And how can I escape God's wrath ?

"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have." 1 Peter 3:15

So, since the Bible says it's a good idea, please answer the question.

Wondergirl · Apr 2, 2011, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by dwashbur

"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have." 1 Peter 3:15

So, since the Bible says it's a good idea, please answer the question.

What was the question?

Oh, yeah, something about why he forsook his previous beliefs (and what were they?) and embraced Camping's teachings. What was it about Camping's teachings that enthralled him?

He's offline right now and is on the East Coast, so he might have disappeared to eat his bedtime snack and put on his jammies. That's what I'm going to do now.

HeadStrongBoy · Apr 3, 2011, 12:11 AM

Wondergirl: Oh, yeah, something about why he forsook his previous beliefs (and what were they?) and embraced Camping's teachings. What was it about Camping's teachings that enthralled him?

Dwashbur: "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have." (1 Peter 3:15) So, since the Bible says it's a good idea, please answer the question.

What were they ? I was confirmed in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod at the age of about 13. I attended a public (secular) high school and stopped attending church regularly. Though I still counted some former parochial classmates as friends, and I still attended services but only once or twice a year. My personal philosophy during high school leaned toward agnosticism and science. In college I majored in Physics/Pre-Engineering, and I became intrigued by the teachings of Herbert W. Armstrong and his Worldwide Church of God, among others. After graduation my spiritual life fell apart completely, and I had some intense episodes of social and emotional disconnect. While searching for my niche in the world I continued to be interested in other points of view for example Christian Science, Krishna Consciousness, Rosicrucianism, martial arts, and the charismatic movement. Years ago, probably in the mid 80s, one of my sisters was a regular listener to Family Radio. At that time many of Mr. Camping's teachings were still recognizable as mainstream Christianity. And because she listened continually, I became interested whenever I visited her. As time passed and I was busy making a living I too would occasionaly tune into Family Radio. I found that as I listened particularly to the Open Forum, I would almost always identify with a particular question that some caller would ask. And the answers that Mr. Camping gave, always from the Bible, were not only informative but invariably accurate (true to the Bible - I checked). That is, in a nutshell, my spiritual pilgrimage to date.