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    Jan 14, 2011, 02:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    That and how many flood cars are going to be cleaned up and sold improperly as cars that have never been wet. Going to be a lot of car buyers screwed with cars that have serious electrical and rust issues as a result of the flood too.

    You have those fools everywhere....that will build a house anywhere they can get away with.....and aren't always caught until something bad happens.
    Yes I observed many car yards with new vehicles under water, heavy machinery sales the same but those will have warranty. Oddly enough rust isn't the issue it used to be. Queensland is a pecular place where car road worthiness is concerned, no one asks any questions until a vehicle changes hands so there will be some very dangerous vehicles on the roads
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    #82

    Jan 17, 2011, 08:50 PM
    Back to the future
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello clete:

    Until you present your scientific credentials for making a such a statement, I'll consider your plea to be nothing more than right wing politics as usual..

    excon
    Ok ex when I first raised this subject I used the term variability and you used that as an opportunity to call me a science denier, etc.

    You ask for scientic opinion that backs my claim
    Will this do?
    Drought and floods: what's coming next?
    Perhaps you want a consensus? The consensus is it is going to be wet in eastern Australia not countesy of global warming but courtesy of natural variability.
    Please note the scientists using the term natural variability. Two important concepts here "natural" and "variability" nothing certain except things change naturally. The other day we had that fine scientific mind, politician Bob Brown, leader of the Greens Party, telling us the floods were the result of global warming, burning fossel fuels and digging coal out of the ground and guess what his answer was? Tax it to pay for flood reclaimation. Not stop doing it, but tax it and the power industry along with it.

    It's summer in Australia and all the loons come out.
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    #83

    Jan 18, 2011, 02:58 PM
    Now It's political
    Save or spill conflict for Wivenhoe Dam bosses | The Australian

    A quick examination of the facts has found why Brisbane flooded and guess what? It wasn't all that rain but mismanagement and cost saving
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    Jan 18, 2011, 04:00 PM

    Figured it would only be a matter of time before SOMEONE tried to cash in on so many peoples misfortune. And its usually a politician or one of their minions that does it first.

    They are usually on the scene even before the Ambulance chasers are.
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    Jan 18, 2011, 05:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Figured it would only be a matter of time before SOMEONE tried to cash in on so many peoples misfortune. And its usually a politician or one of their minions that does it first.

    They are usually on the scene even before the Ambulance chasers are.
    Not sure what you are referring to, yes our politicians have been fact finding during the crisis. The PM and the Premier have not been short of photo ops with the Premier assuming the PR anchor role but my recent post focuses on scapegoating, the dam built to prevent the crisis caused the crisis? It is all Joh's fault. We are bigger people than this or apparently not. I'm waiting for the little red fox to shunt the blame as Bob Brown did. He is the worst kind of opportunist politician and is just showing his true colours. It will be interesting to see what they blame the Victorian flood on. The Victorians have assumed a much lower profile, perhaps because a major city isn't involved so far
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    Jan 18, 2011, 06:16 PM

    That's what I am refeing to... grabbing the glory ( and the spotlight) during someone else's hardship and pointing fingers everywhere else but themselves, like they alone are saints. Politicians are famous for that worldwide.
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    Jan 18, 2011, 06:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Thats what I am refeing to....grabbing the glory ( and the spotlight) during someone elses hardship and pointing fingers everywhere else but themselves, like they alone are saints. Politicians are famous for that worldwide.
    Indeed, and Mr Brown among them
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    #88

    Jan 31, 2011, 09:30 PM
    And yet more water
    Countesy of a cyclone,Yasi, hurricane to those north of wherever, and it is big will it ever end?
    There is a nice picture for anyone interested
    Live coverage: Cyclone Yasi bears down on Queensland coast | Latest news on the Queensland Floods | News.com.au
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    #89

    Jan 31, 2011, 09:37 PM

    Wow, I hope everyone listens and prepares or leaves the area.

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    Feb 1, 2011, 07:11 AM

    Bet boat sales have been brisk... nobody NEEDS that much rain.
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    Feb 2, 2011, 01:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Bet boat sales have been brisk......nobody NEEDS that much rain.
    I don't think a boat is going to cut it, they are talking about 300 kmh winds and 700 mm of rain and a 7 metre tidal surge. I just hope it crosses the coast in a relatively uninhabited area at the moment it looks like Innisvale, which took the hit a few years ago is going to get pasted again

    Just so you know how big this thing is
    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225998762870
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    Feb 2, 2011, 05:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I don't think a boat is going to cut it, they are talking about 300 kmh winds and 700 mm of rain and a 7 metre tidal surge. I just hope it crosses the coast in a relatively uninhabited area at the moment it looks like Innisvale, which took the hit a few years ago is going to get pasted again

    Just so you know how big this thing is
    How Cyclone Yasi compares around the world | Latest news on the Queensland Floods | News.com.au
    Time to seriously consider building an ARK... but time isn't on your side.

    At least statisticlly... you may never see another year like this in your lifetime. I know its not over yet... but that's a positive thing to look towards.
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    Feb 2, 2011, 02:33 PM
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    Time to seriously consider building an ARK....but time isn't on your side.

    At least statisticlly....you may never see another year like this in your lifetime. I know its not over yet....but thats a positive thing to look towards.
    Smoothy I think I did see another year like this, was it 1954 or 1956? Hard to remember now but there was a cyclone in there somewhere and a lot of water but you're right it wasn't as bad as this. I already have my ARK, I now live in the mountains and my house is well above the high water mark
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    Feb 2, 2011, 05:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Smoothy I think I did see another year like this, was it 1954 or 1956? hard to remember now but there was a cyclone in there somewhere and a lot of water but you're right it wasn't as bad as this. I already have my ARK, I now live in the mountains and my house is well above the high water mark
    That's older than I am. And my knowledge of today's Australia is sketchy... much less something that old.

    Mountain is the best Ark... if THAT starts to move... you have far more serious things to worry about than getting your feet wet.
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    Feb 2, 2011, 06:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Thats older than I am. And my knowledge of todays austrailia is sketchy....much less something that old.

    Mountain is the best Ark....if THAT starts to move......you have far more serious things to worry about than getting your feet wet.
    All the volcanos moved south and left their remnants. The mountains don't move very often here. You want to know a little history Google the Maitland Flood

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