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classyT · Jan 26, 2011, 12:54 PM

Dave,

Yes. There are demonimations that have different rules and out of respect for them I would agree with what you said. But according to the bible that is just a man made rule... there is no such stipulation.

dwashbur · Jan 26, 2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

Dave,

Yes. There are demonimations that have different rules and out of respect for them I would agree with what you said. But according to the bible that is just a man made rule...there is no such stipulation.

Agreed. (Good grief, we've got to stop doing that!! )

HeadStrongBoy · Jan 26, 2011, 02:10 PM

Quoting classyT:
"ha ha ha...well this has been one heck of a long 7 year tribulation."

It is true that the number 7 features heavily in scriptures referring to the end times, of which The Great Tribulation is an important part. However, until very recently it has not been possible to understand the details of the end time very accurately. And many people continue to hold a variety of often conflicting points of view. But because of God's great mercy some have been able to learn, from the Bible, that The Church Age has ended. Thus baptism and communion are no longer to be practiced.

P.S. The actual length of The Great Tribulation will be 23 years.

classyT · Jan 26, 2011, 04:20 PM

When the church age ends I'm going to be raptured. I will be in heaven arguing with Dwashbur and he will be eating crow.. whilest I feast at the marriage supper of the lamb. That's my story and I'm sticking to it because that is what the bible says.. ( well it doesn't save dave will eat crow... I threw that in for grins.)

P.S. the actual length of The Great Tribulation will be 3 1/2 years according to the bible.. but the first 3 1/2 won't be a picnic.

HeadStrongBoy · Jan 26, 2011, 04:59 PM

Quoting classyT:
"P.S. the actual length of The Great Tribulation will be 3 1/2 years"

I know that many people read it that way. But the fact is that the 3 1/2 years are metaphorical (symbolic). They symbolize the first 2300 days. Though the information is available in more precise form, the 2300 days began in May of 1988 and went until about Sept. 1994. During that time virtually no one was becoming saved. THAT is the very difficult time you've referred to as "no picnic." The Bible refers to that time as "unless those days were shortened, there would no flesh be saved alive." Therefore in 1994 God once again began to pour out His holy spirit and to save many people OUTSIDE THE CHURCHES. 1994 was a biblical Jubilee Year. The next 6100 days of The Great Tribulation are the next 3 1/2 symbolic years that you've referred to. It will all end with the catching up May 21, 2011. Exactly 8400 days (23 years) after May 1988.

The preceding information has been worked out in great detail and is available FREE. No books for sale.

Fr_Chuck · Jan 26, 2011, 05:37 PM

Well at least on May 22 we will be rid of HeadStrong, either he is right and poof, or he will have to come and admit all of his beleifs were wrong.

dwashbur · Jan 26, 2011, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

When the church age ends i'm gonna be raptured. I will be in heaven arguing with Dwashbur and he will be eating crow..whilest I feast at the marriage supper of the lamb. Thats my story and I'm stickin to it because that is what the bible says..( well it doesn't save dave will eat crow...i threw that in for grins.)

P.S. the actual length of The Great Tribulation will be 3 1/2 years according to the bible..but the first 3 1/2 wont be a picnic.

If it actually does happen that way, I will happily eat the black-feathered carrion-loving bird!

Wondergirl · Jan 26, 2011, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by dwashbur

If it actually does happen that way, I will happily eat the black-feathered carrion-loving bird!

I'll bring the recipes whipped up in the Texas mission that was reduced to eating them when the supply wagons hadn't come through yet.

I'll bring chocolate cupcakes too (to kill the taste left in our mouths).

dwashbur · Jan 26, 2011, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I'll bring the recipes whipped up in the Texas mission that was reduced to eating them when the supply wagons hadn't come through yet.

I'll bring chocolate cupcakes too (to kill the taste let in our mouths).

It's a date!

classyT · Jan 27, 2011, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy

Quoting classyT:
"P.S. the actual length of The Great Tribulation will be 3 1/2 years"

I know that many people read it that way. But the fact is that the 3 1/2 years are metaphorical (symbolic). They symbolize the first 2300 days. Though the information is available in more precise form, the 2300 days began in May of 1988 and went until about Sept. 1994. During that time virtually no one was becoming saved. THAT is the very difficult time you've referred to as "no picnic." The Bible refers to that time as "unless those days were shortened, there would no flesh be saved alive." Therefore in 1994 God once again began to pour out His holy spirit and to save many people OUTSIDE THE CHURCHES. 1994 was a biblical Jubilee Year. The next 6100 days of The Great Tribulation are the next 3 1/2 symbolic years that you've referred to. It will all end with the catching up May 21, 2011. Exactly 8400 days (23 years) after May 1988.

The preceding information has been worked out in great detail and is available FREE. No books for sale.

Okie dokie Headstrong... and if you are still here on May 22 will you just say you weren't predestinated? I'm cool with it myself.. I'm ready to go any time any day. And heck these last 23 years haven't been so horrible.. I don't know what God was talking about... (pouring out His Wrath on this earth what a jokester he can be)... geeze World World 1 and World World 11 were a far worse and it wasn't even the great trib. WHEW! :rolleyes:

I guess that no man knows the day or hour thing just didn't apply here. Gotcha. ;)

So then we can expect the Lord to set up his earthy Kingdom... right? Starting May 22?

classyT · Jan 27, 2011, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by wondergirl

i'll bring the recipes whipped up in the texas mission that was reduced to eating them when the supply wagons hadn't come through yet.

I'll bring chocolate cupcakes too (to kill the taste left in our mouths).

Lol!

classyT · Jan 27, 2011, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Well at least on May 22 we will be rid of HeadStrong, either he is right and poof, or he will have to come and admit all of his beleifs were wrong.

LOL! Nice try.. but he calls himself headstrong for a REASON. :D

speechlesstx · Jan 27, 2011, 08:00 AM

The church age ended and I missed it? And what's this about May 22?

Back to the OP, scripture laid out the rules in 1 Corinthians 11... it's between you and God.

27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.

28 A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup.

29 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.

30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.

31 But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment.

32 When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world.

Yes, I know churches all have their own rules, but basically it's between you and God. Being baptized or Baptist has nothing to do with it.

Fr_Chuck · Jan 27, 2011, 09:40 AM

Oh yes, by the way lost in here somewhere, did the OP ever come back and give us any more info

smoothy · Jan 27, 2011, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

oh yes, by the way lost in here somewhere, did the OP ever come back and give us any more info

With one post showing for the OP... I can assume they haven't.

HeadStrongBoy · Jan 27, 2011, 11:31 AM

Quoting classyT and dwashbur (double-teaming):
Thanks for the verses..i shall be looking them up and putting them in context and I will help you out on why you are all screwy in ur thinking....ha ha You go, girl!!!!!

This quote is from another posting. But my point is that there is much "dancing around" and "good natured" kidding going on, but very little serious Bible research and effort to answer valid points of view, other than the ones held by CONSENSUS.

I am still waiting to be shown, FROM ACTUAL SCRIPTURES, exactly where my thinking is "all screwy."

speechlesstx · Jan 27, 2011, 12:32 PM

And we're still waiting for you to prove your point in scripture. It's not up to us to refute something you haven't offered any evidence for.

HeadStrongBoy · Jan 27, 2011, 12:56 PM

Quoting speechlesstx:
prove your point in scripture

Please refresh my memory as to your exact question (point). I have been posting on several different threads. Thanks.

HeadStrongBoy · Jan 27, 2011, 01:10 PM

Quoting speechlesstx:
The church age ended and I missed it? And what's this about May 22

Are these the questions you're waiting for me to address ?

classyT · Jan 27, 2011, 01:37 PM

Headstrong,

You didn't prove your point. The scriptures you posted were totally out of context.. you don't go to Thess. To find out how to be saved and how salvation works. Hit up the book of Romans.

Also you never answered my question that Paul specifically answered to the guard when he asked what must I do to be saved? Paul point blank tells us how to be saved and how salvation works... and you go Thess. A book that is talking to the believer not at ALL about how salvation works or how to know you are to prove your point. Which I forget what it was anyway. You told me until I understood your point you wouldn't go further. So I dropped it. I am NOT side steppin you.

Speech,

Don't feel bad. We all missed the end of the church age. But on the upside we are almost done with the last part of the great tribulation period. Course I figured I wouldn't go through any of it but hey, it ain't been all that bad. :D