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rdemilliano · Dec 31, 2010, 12:17 PM

rdemilliano · Dec 31, 2010, 01:19 PM

I saw the answer you gave about wiring diagrams. I went to that link and saw the three wiring diagrams for a ceiling fan. They are all very similar to mine with the exception that all three diagrams show a single capacitor.

My fan has three capacitors. The on/off switch has three "layers": one attaches the switch to the housing and has no wires coming out; the middle layer has two wires, both going to one end of a capacitor... the other end of the capacitor has the wires hanging loose; the last layer has three wires coming out, one red, one white and one black. The third capacitor is a stand alone, not hard wired to anything.

As the result of an accident that knocked the light fixture completely off and pulled loose a bunch of wires from their wire nuts I have all the wires hanging loose from the fan housing (I tried to start over but too many of the wires were disconnected).

One other difference in the diagrams shown is that I have some different colored wires than those in the sketches. From the center tube out of the fan, I have a white, black and gray wire but in addition there is a yellow, orange and blue wire. I am pretty sure the blue wire is for the light but where do the others go?

The REV switch has red, white, blue and black wires instead of nbrs 1-4. I don't know how to relate the nbrs to the colors. I could use some help here as well.

Thank you in advance for any help you could send me to get this thing wired back into running condition.

Ray

donf · Jan 3, 2011, 09:45 AM

Greetings,

KISS is no longer responding to posts on this site.

In order to try to help you, we need to know the make and model of the fan you have.

donf · Jan 3, 2011, 09:50 AM

Please tie this item to the other rdemillano item I asked you to correct. They are regarding the same question.

donf · Jan 3, 2011, 10:06 AM

Ray,

I asked that your questioned so that you would have a better shot at getting more folks reading about your situation.

As I asked earlier, we need to know the model of the Hampton Bay fan you have.

ballengerb1 · Jan 3, 2011, 10:09 AM

There is no one diagram for a ceiling fan. We need the model number and also need to know if there is a light kit installed. Are you hoping to control by pull chains, switches on the wall or a remote?

Stratmando · Jan 3, 2011, 12:33 PM

Accurate diagrams are difficult if not impossible to find, it may be quicker if you found the same model fan and took a look.
Is this the only one of this model you have?

rdemilliano · Jan 4, 2011, 06:45 AM

Don,
I am sorry that I have not responded but this morning is the first time I received notice of an answer. Yesterday I checked and my questions were 4, answers 0. In fact, this morning, the e-mail link took me to an "OOPS" page in the forum.

rdemilliano · Jan 4, 2011, 07:14 AM

To Donf, Ballengerb1 and Stratmando:
I apologize for not responding until now. As I said to Donf, I have not received notice until this AM about receiving responses.

First of all, let me thank you all for responding. Second, the mfgr is L & C Distributors Inc, Dallas TX (that's all that's on the fan) and the Model is 1660-42. There is also a Serial nbr, 010864. There is no other information other than the UL logo and the voltage rating. I have tried to locate a company that corresponds but there does not seem to be one making fans.

I work for Home Depot on weekends and consulted with our electrical guys. They concluded that this is probably not a Hampton Bay or Hunter as those fans have single capacitors. They did say that this may be a very old model but are pretty sure there would still be one of their logos on the fan housing.

Yes, this is the only model I have with that data/mfgr.

Now, the fan had a light fixture. Both the fan and light where controlled from the fan housing. The fan switch is a pull switch and comes through the side of the housing. The light switch was in a bakelite housing screwed into the fan housing is a pull switch.

Side note, I have a new light fixture that has its own pull switch so all I need is two wires(?)from the fan housing to hook up the new light. BTW, the bakelite housing was busted up in the accident that tore the old light fixture from the fan and as a result, pulled a bunch of wires and wire nuts apart thus resulting in my needing to rewire from the beginning.

Responders, thank you again for helping me and again, I apologize for the slow response.

ballengerb1 · Jan 4, 2011, 07:51 AM

Thismay just be a start to get the conversation going. Inside the fan you will find a white wire which is the common neutral for both the fan and the light. There will be a black which is the incoming hot wire to run the fan and the blue is the hot for the light. There will also be a green or bare wire which is the common ground wire for the entire unit. Since this has been working off pull chains only I assume there is but one wall switch or circuit so the black and blue were both connected to the ceiling box black. White to white and the ground is likely screwed to the box or an incoming ground wire from the box. Do you wish to continue using just the pull switches or two wall switches or a remote?

rdemilliano · Jan 4, 2011, 09:27 AM

ballengerb1:
This is good! First, yes I will use just pull switches. The old fan had a bakelite housing inside the fan housing that contained the pull switch for the light switch. As it was destroyed essentially, I have bought a new light fixture that has a pull switch included with the fixture. All I need from the fan housing is two wires (color?) that will power the lights.

Second, there is one wall switch that turns the power on/off. All the controls for the fan (3-way fan switch, reverse switch and light) are controlled from the fan unit. That has worked fine in the past so lets keep it simple.

Third, your wire colors worked fine until I got to the green wire... there isn't one. Out of the center of the fan, there are three thin wires, red, yellow and blue; two black wires, one hard wired to one segment of the on/off switch; and a thick gray wire and a normal size white wire. BTW, the third segment of the on/off switch has the two black wires that are wired to the two capacitors. Their other ends are loose.

Final note, the reverse switch in the fan housing is a slide switch with four wires: a red and white wire on the one side and a blue and black wire on the other.

Hope this helps,
Ray