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    Oct 19, 2010, 10:07 PM
    Toilet rough in unattended
    Hello all, I had to relocate the toilet rough in and after diggin and moving the flange I left it with out patching the concrete floor and now it looks like it's filtrating water from the ground, any ideas where the water is coming from and how to fix it... Thanks
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    Oct 19, 2010, 11:17 PM

    If water is clear and u are sure that it is not coming from a broken pipe, it would be ground water. Could be an under ground spring. Th only way to remove it would be by installing a sump pump.

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    Oct 20, 2010, 05:45 AM
    Drainage of ground water under and around concrete foundations has been iffy until very recent years, and even now some builders aren't using the best methods. Our house is only 43 years old but the drain around the footing was totally clogged with dirt and was useless when we excavated. No springs, just plain old water soaking into the ground. Concrete is actually porous. Start by patching the area and putting sealer all around the floor.
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    Oct 20, 2010, 05:49 AM

    Have you checked for a hidden leak? To check to see if you have a hidden leak first shut down everything in the house, no flush, no drinks of water, and if you are on a meter go out and check the little pointer in the gage. It should not move or creep. If it does you have a leak. If you're on a pump then check the pressure gage after the pump builds up to pressure and shuts off. The gage should not fall and the pump come back on. If so then you have a leak. Hope this helps and thank you for rating my reply, Tom
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    Oct 20, 2010, 12:34 PM
    I have checked the pipes and no cracks around it, the water is clear and odorless. I forgot to mention that couple weeks before I notice this we had rain for couple of days on which my sump pump failed while I was at work , the basement didn't flood but the sump was full and I think the water was pushed back into the dran tubes and when I activated back the pump lots of water pumped out of the drain tubes, do you guys think this water could be from the time the water flodded back into the tubes and the only reason am seeing it in my rough in opening it's because the crushed rock I put back into the hole? Should I just dump concrete and forget about it for now?
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    Oct 20, 2010, 04:03 PM

    If u still have water in hole and sump is working, remove water with wet vac then install concrete. Hope this will solve your problem.

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    Oct 21, 2010, 05:47 AM

    Not that I think you have a hiffen leak but did you check to be sure?
    think the water was pushed back into the dran tubes
    What "drain tubes"? Your sump pump isn't connected back to the house sewer is it? Where does the sump discharge into? You're getting ground water in your opening that the sump can't collect and disperse. I wonder why. How close is the pit from the rough on opening? Back to you, Tom
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    Oct 21, 2010, 11:03 AM
    I don't thik the drain tubes are connected to the sewer, it drains water every time it rains, the sump pump us inside my basement loundry and it discharges the water out to the back yard. After I remove the crushed rock from the rough in and 5gal later , water is nowhere to be found,is ita good time for to patch it up with cement? Should I put like a plastic layer to prevent moisture??
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    Oct 21, 2010, 03:53 PM

    Yes! Now would be a good time to cover it up. You can lay down plastic if you're concerned but if the patch is tight the ground water should find its way back into the pit. Good luck, Tom

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