[morgaine300]

Good thing I didn't ask about ghosts. It was one of my possibilities. No ghosts that I'm aware of. (But since they like to hide, you never know.)

Okay, so there is a game, possibly a sport, involved. Is it a game that is normally played in the sand? Not familiar with the game and had to check Wiki - never thought it was that complicated. Looks like normally it would be sand, yes. Seems like dirt would do as well?

Is it volleyball? Football? Frisbee? (I really have my hopes up for volleyball, as that makes sense with the question about sand, but that really seems like a sport to me.) Kite flying? Building sand castles? None of the above. (Sorry about the volleyball, and I would have called that a sport, yes. Looks like Wiki might consider this a "sport.")

Was the anger over the man beating the murderer at the game? It's not known who was beating whom.

Did the murder occur at day? Yes. Night? I doubt it. Is it relevant? From a light perspective, not a time perspective.

Did the game involve something that was used as the murder weapon? Yes.

I keep reading one of your replies: Did they fight each other? Do you mean like boxing or fist fight or karate? If so, no. Could this mean they were competing against each other? They're competing but not a "fight competition."

[morgaine300]

Hm... then it means that the puzzle does involve money? (I asked about money earlier and the response was in the negative) No.

This is why I don't ask "not" questions. You asked if this was a game not involving money, and I said not in this case, meaning not involving money in this case. "Not" questions are very confusing.

Is it a game we normally have in a casino? (cards, roulette, slots, dice etc) No.
Is it a game concerning luck? No. Skill? Yes. Prediction? No.

[Just Looking]

Is it a game/sport that involves a stick? My first thought was polo, but that is on horseback - and there are no horses. :D

Was the problem that the man cheated?

Is the game something like Dungeons and Dragons?

Does it have anything to do with dirt bikes? Off road vehicles?

[morgaine300]

Is it a game/sport that involves a stick? No.

Was the problem that the man cheated? No.

Is the game something like Dungeons and Dragons? In sand? No.

Does it have anything to do with dirt bikes? Off road vehicles? No.

[Unknown008]

Was the weapon used long and thin?
- Or not that long and thick like a baseball bat?
- Is a racket involved in the game?
- Was precision involved too?
- Was shooting/throwing something involved?

Sand castle? (:p)
Kubb?

[morgaine300]

Was the weapon used long and thin? No.
- Or not that long and thick like a baseball bat? No.
- Is a racket involved in the game? No.
- Was precision involved too? Yes.
- Was shooting/throwing something involved? Yes.

Sand castle? () -- Yeah, I thought that was pretty amusing too.
Kubb? No. (Never heard of it.)

[Unknown008]

I think that it'll be difficult to guess a game we have surely never heard about :(

Is it relevant why they played the game in the first place?

Are they part of some group/club/sect?

Is the projectile the murder weapon?

Should we know which part of the victim's body received the blow?

Is the material with which the projectile is made of relevant?

Did they bet on something?

[morgaine300]

I think that it'll be difficult to guess a game we have surely never heard about

No, I meant I've never heard of Kubb. I had to go to the link to see what it was.

Is it relevant why they played the game in the first place? No.

Are they part of some group/club/sect? Irrelevant.

Is the projectile the murder weapon? Yes.

Should we know which part of the victim's body received the blow? Um... if you knew the type of weapon, you'd know. Knowing where would probably only eliminate some stuff and otherwise not be too useful.

Is the material with which the projectile is made of relevant? Yes.

Did they bet on something? Possibly, but not really relevant.

[Unknown008]

I was meaning the game itself as you have to see whether it was practised only on sand and you found that it can be performed on dirt too, not the Kubb, I too didn't know what that was :p

Hm... the game doesn't involve any ball, is played on sand or dust, consists of throwing a projectile... right?

Is the projectile made of metal? Wood? Ceramic?
Does the projectile fit easily in the hand of the murderer?
Is it bigger than a hand? Bigger than an arm?

[morgaine300]

I was meaning the game itself as you have to see whether it was practised only on sand and you found that it can be performed on dirt too, not the Kubb, I too didn't know what that was

Oh. I know the game - vaguely. One of those things you screw around with as a kid, but I never got into that much. So I don't know "official" things about it.

I didn't "find" that it could be played on dirt. I just think it would work. J-Lo simply asked if it was usually played on sand, and I found yes it is. I also saw a picture that looked like dirt, or something. I've known people to play it on other surfaces, but "officially" it's supposed to be sand.

I also started doubting the beach thing after looking on Wiki. But I just found a site that specifically talks about playing on a beach. :)

Hm... the game doesn't involve any ball, is played on sand or dust, consists of throwing a projectile... right? Yes.

Is the projectile made of metal? Yes. Wood? No. Ceramic? No.
Does the projectile fit easily in the hand of the murderer? Yes.
Is it bigger than a hand? Uh, a little. Bigger than an arm? No.

With that I'm off to bed. I keep trying to go earlier and somehow I always managed to stay up just as late again.

[Unknown008]

Have a good sleep :) I'll think over it and might not have any questions until some time :)

[Just Looking]

Is it horseshoes? (This has to be it. :D )

Did the man insult the murderer? Did he call him a name? Insult his play? Was there a dispute over who got closest to the stake?

Did the murderer hit the man in the head with a horseshoe? The chest? The stomach? (I'm thinking those are the only blows that would kill him.) Wait, I bet it's his neck?

[Unknown008]

I think you got it JLo. I don't know this game and on a search, I found 'horseshoe' but I thought about another game I don't know how it's called. You have a long hammer and has to hit a ball through metal 'doors' and lastly make it hit a pin. The thought of a ball immediately made me think that it couldn't be it... well... let's see how it goes :)

[Just Looking]

It's a pretty common game here, especially at picnics. You actually throw horseshoes at a stake. The goal is to ring it - that is, the horseshoe goes around the stake. You get points for that, throwing a horseshoe that leans against the stake, or if neither happens then the person closest to the stake gets a point.

It fits the puzzle, but I still don't know what caused a dispute.

Horseshoes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The game you are thinking of is croquet.

PS - I'm going back to bed. It's still early here. :)

[excon]

Hello:

I've got one I want to post, but I don't want to interrupt an ongoing game. Will someone PM me WHEN it's a good time??

excon

PS> No, it's not a good one. You smart people will be able to figure it out on your first try...

[Unknown008]

Well, if you can be here like you are nearly everywhere on the forum... :)

[morgaine300]

Is it horseshoes? (This has to be it. ) Yes. :D

Did the man insult the murderer? Did he call him a name? (I'm thinking horse's a**.) Insult his play? Any of these could've happened.
Was there a dispute over who got closest to the stake? Yes.

Did the murderer hit the man in the head with a horseshoe? The chest? The stomach? (I'm thinking those are the only blows that would kill him.) Wait, I bet it's his neck? It actually doesn't say, but I've assumed it would have to be his head.

[morgaine300]

I think you got it JLo. I don't know this game and on a search, I found 'horseshoe' but I thought about another game I don't know how it's called. You have a long hammer and has to hit a ball through metal 'doors' and lastly make it hit a pin. The thought of a ball immediately made me think that it couldn't be it... well... let's see how it goes :)

You gave yourself a clue when you looked at Kubb. It said right in there it was a cross between something and horseshoes. And there's the "horseshoe" thing.

But I then also started worrying that you might not know what this game even was, since I'd never heard of Kubb. That hadn't really occurred to me until then.

And that's croquet you're speaking of. Used to play that a lot as a kid. We had a big back yard, though it had a lot of bumps and such.

[Just Looking]

Is it horseshoes? (This has to be it. ) Yes. :D

Did the man insult the murderer? Did he call him a name? (I'm thinking horse's a**.) Insult his play? Any of these could've happened.
Was there a dispute over who got closest to the stake? Yes.

Did the murderer hit the man in the head with a horseshoe? The chest? The stomach? (I'm thinking those are the only blows that would kill him.) Wait, I bet it's his neck? It actually doesn't say, but I've assumed it would have to be his head.

Okay, so the two men were playing horseshoes. There is a dispute as to who is closest to the stake. The murderer gets angry and hits the man with a horseshoe, killing him. I wouldn't be surprised if this has happened before and the killer is frustrated with the man. To cover this up, the murderer removes the stakes and takes the horseshoes with him, and moves the sand around to erase footprints. He tries to make it look like the man was trampled by a horse. I have this image of him using the horseshoes to add to the effect by putting prints in the sand.

Do we need to figure out anything else, or is this it? Should be page ExCon?

[morgaine300]

It fits the puzzle, but I still don't know what caused a dispute.

Someone did ask about that, maybe even you. I don't have a lot of time to look it up right now. I was just trying to get questions answered real quick.