[paraclete]

Brisbane Lawyer Expects To Be Fired For Burning Koran And Bible

A Bribane academic was not content that people in the US had all the fun with the burning Quoran debate, he put his own twist on it and rolled and smoked joints using both the Bible and the Quoran. He said he preferred the Bible and now Muslims are up in arms. Now this is putting US-Australian solidarity at a new level and I ask is he endangering Australian troops by doing this?

[smoothy]

Please show where a liberal on this forum said that. Please show where a liberal on this forum said that. Please show where a liberal on this forum said that.

The examples are too numerous to qoute... pages after page after page in fact.

The entire argument defending the Ground Zero Mosque is EXACTLY that. Pick any.

The existing structure at that site was damaged heavily directly BY parts of one of the two jets that hit the WTC towers first (specifically the landing gear). This makes that site ground zero as well.

[NeedKarma]

So much for your argument, Run along now.

[smoothy]

So much for your argument, Run along now.

Well, it was a dumb question that would require linking at least 50% of the posts in a thread that was pages long... and you know it.

And the post was about the Memorial Mosque a radical Imam wants to build at ground zero... YOUR arguments about how they had a right to do it was among them.

[excon]

Rightwingers believe that the reason hate is spreading throughout America is because MODERATE Muslims do NOT speak up against Islamofacism. Apparently, if they DON'T speak out against it, YOU believe they're FOR it.

I'm WAITING for any of our resident rightwingers to speak out against smoothy.... Tick tock...

Hello again,

Tick tock...

excon

[speechlesstx]

Yup, you're correct, he's on his own against you guys.

What "you guys?" I am me and me alone and which side is it that you take?

[smoothy]

How about speaking out against Liberals that would hand over the USA to Sharia Law by surrendering to the Islamic Terrorists.

YOu either Fight them or subject yourself to their demands... there are no other alternatives.

Wait until they target the west coast... THEN you might understand when it hits close to hiome for you rahter than 5,000 miles away.

[excon]

5,000 miles away.

Hello again, smoothy:

Uhhh... It's 3,000, but don't let facts get in your way.

excon

[smoothy]

Brisbane Lawyer Expects To Be Fired For Burning Koran And Bible

A Bribane academic was not content that people in the US had all the fun with the burning Quoran debate, he put his own twist on it and rolled and smoked joints using both the Bible and the Quoran. He said he preferred the Bible and now Muslims are up in arms. Now this is putting US-Australian solidarity at a new level and I ask is he endangering Australian troops by doing this?

Really... where is this vitriol when it comes to Saudi Arabia and what they do to non-muslims just to single out a single country (they aren't alone in this).

Actually I'm glad that guy did it... maybe you will see the differnce between Muslims and Christians. You won't see the Vatican sending suicide bombers, they might pray for him instead... but listen to the Muslims acting like the lunatics most of them are. And he makes his point very effectively.

Seriously take a step back and read what the reactions were to a stack of paper with words on it.

Tell me that is either rational or reasonible?

See if I wanted to do that, I have a legal right ( I don't however smoke anything, except for certain food items that are tastey smoked), I do not know if in Australia he has the same legal rights granted in your constitution.

My knowledge of the Aussie legal system and the rights one has there are not at all very extensive

[speechlesstx]

Hello again,

Tick tock...

First of all I don't live here so this is the first I've seen your challenge.

Originally Posted by excon View Post
Rightwingers believe that the reason hate is spreading throughout America is because MODERATE Muslims do NOT speak up against Islamofacism.

Who said that? I've never said that. I think most of the hate in this country is on the left. It has little or nothing to do with Muslims, moderate or not.

Apparently, if they DON'T speak out against it, YOU believe they're FOR it.

Don't think I've ever said that either, but silence on Islamic terrorism speaks volumes.

I'm WAITING for any of our resident rightwingers to speak out against smoothy... Tick tock...

You're doing a fine job. I typically don't read his posts but I did call one of his hunts a waste of time. But you let me know when Smoothy fails to speak out against Christian fascism and I'll say something.

[smoothy]

First of all I don't live here so this is the first I've seen your challenge.



Who said that? I've never said that. I think most of the hate in this country is on the left. It has little or nothing to do with Muslims, moderate or not.



Don't think I've ever said that either, but silence on Islamic terrorism speaks volumes.



You're doing a fine job. I typically don't read his posts but I did call one of his hunts a waste of time. But you let me know when Smoothy fails to speak out against Christian fascism and I'll say something.

Exactly... I have no more tollernace for Louis Farikhan and his followers than I do for the KKK or the Jehovah Witnesses than I do radical Islam.

WHen Christians start sending out suicide bombers like so many Muslim Imams do, I'll be on the forfront of those calling for the end to it.


But the underlying message ex and the left has they won't openly say is summerd up in this quote.

"Freedom of speech for ME, but not for thee"

[excon]

First of all I don't live here so this is the first I've seen your challenge. Who said that? I've never said that.

Hello again, Steve:

Thanks for addressing it.

Nahhh. You didn't say it. But, OTHER rightwingers do - like the LEADERS of your party. Newt, said it on FOX News Sunday. You can see it here.

Look, it's OK if you want to give smoothy a pass. You are not obligated to defend his craziness - just like the Muslim living on your corner ISN'T obligated to defend craziness, no matter WHAT the Newtster says.

excon

[smoothy]

You should know that knowledge of a crime before its committed makes you an accompliss to that crime if you remain silent.

And many muslims are aware of the radical element among them... but choose to remain silent, because they respect the Muslim radical more than any non-muslim that might be harmed.

They are taught this in Islam.

Far more know and stay silent than actually do the right thing and pass on information.

And many people call defending Terrorists, and otehrs who break the laws as craziness. Not those who defend the laws and follow them.

After all, yet again you prove my point that to the core beliefs of the left... nobody has less rights than American Conservatives have.

[paraclete]

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My knowledge of the Aussie legal system and the rights one has there are not at all very extensive

Let's see, he doesn't have the right to smoke weed and he has provided video evidence of breaking the law, as far as I know there is no law about burning the Bible or the Quoran in this manner but he has placed the university in disrepute so that would be a breach of contract and if there were riots as a result he might be charged with encitement, etc.

He is fortunate he didn't do it further south or some Muslim idiot might have decided he needed killing.. They have taken it somewhat calmly
We have rights we didn't need to spell out in a Bill of Rights and our Consititution was modelled on yours but with a hundred and twenty years of hindsight, It has rarely been amended

[excon]

And many people call defending Terrorists, and otehrs who break the laws as craziness.

Hello again, smoothy:

The craziness is that you make up stuff as you go along. The craziness is your hate.

We've been here before, though. You are NOT original. But, this is such a great country, that we've overcome your kind of hatred and bigotry before. We've remained an INCLUSIVE nation... We will continue... You are a relic.

excon

[smoothy]

Let's see, he doesn't have the right to smoke weed and he has provided video evidence of breaking the law, as far as I know there is no law about burning the Bible or the Quoran in this manner but he has placed the university in disrepute so that would be a breach of contract and if there were riots as a result he might be charged with encitement, etc.

He is fortunate he didn't do it further south or some Muslim idiot might have decided he needed killing..They have taken it somewhat calmly
We have rights we didn't need to spell out in a Bill of Rights and our Consititution was modelled on yours but with a hundred and twenty years of hindsight, It has rarely been amended

If he actually broke laws... then yeah... he might get called on it. If he was a lawyer, he should have known what he could and could not get away with. Unless he really WANTS arrested to make a point in court.

As far as Universities... around here, many are known as hangouts for the lunatic fringe on the left that can't get real jobs. Californias Berkely Campus being #1 on the list.

Can't comment on any Aussie Universities. I really know or have even heard little about any of them.

Problem many on the left tend to forget... freedom of speech doesn't mean they can say anything they want and be free from anyone contradicting them... or be free from hearing viewpoints they might not like.

But there are Laws on the books (here in the USA) about aiding criminal actions... even if prior knowledge of an event that they remained silent about is a crime. People can and have been sent to jail for it.

Funny how the people acting like idiots complaining about someone TALKING about burning a Koran... or in the case you mentioned using pages as a reefer wrapper, were strangely Silent with some loons that Call themselves artists, fashion a Jesus Christ on a Cross from human and animal excrement and urine and call it art... and defend THAT as free speech.

But in the next breath... just talking about burning a book is reprehensible...

And they think they are the only logical people with those thoughts?

[speechlesstx]

Nahhh. You didn't say it. But, OTHER rightwingers do - like the LEADERS of your party. Newt, said it on FOX News Sunday. You can see it here.

I didn't watch but if the transcript is accurate, and I have no reason to believe it isn't, he said nothing of the sort.

WALLACE: Finally, and we've only got less than two minutes left -- you enjoyed that. It was a pretty funny line.

Let's talk about the mosque near ground zero and the threat to burn Korans this week. You say if the president was willing to call out the pastor about the Korans, he should be willing to call out in equally strong terms the imam about the mosque.

GINGRICH: It doesn't even have to be strong -- but first of all, I'm totally opposed to burning the Koran. I think every religious person should have a deep sense of respect for other people's religious documents and religious symbols just as we were deeply opposed to the Taliban destroying the two historic buddhas which they blew up. So I think we ought to all oppose burning the Koran.

Second, all the president has to do is something mild. He could just say publicly, "They shouldn't build it there." Now, that shouldn't be that painful for him. But the truth is he's unwilling to say that. And that's unfortunate because it's a very bad idea to build that mosque and center that close to ground zero.

And it is the opposite of what Imam Rauf says it is. It is, in fact, an affront to virtually all the families who lost loved ones at 9/11.

WALLACE: Speaker Gingrich, we want to thank you, as always, for coming in and talking with us. Always good to talk to you, sir.

And we want to note the speaker and his wife Calista host a new documentary called "America at Risk: The War With No Name" which can be found at the Website on the screen.

Well? I missed whatever it was he was supposed to have said.

Look, it's OK if you want to give smoothy a pass. You are not obligated to defend his craziness - just like the Muslim living on your corner ISN'T obligated to defend craziness, no matter WHAT the Newtster says.

I would hope the Muslim on the corner isn't obligated to defend craziness, but I do hope he is courageous enough to condemn Islamofascism. And as I said, if Smoothy fails to speak out against Christian fascism you let me know.

[excon]

Don't think I've ever said that either, but silence on Islamic terrorism speaks volumes.

Well? I missed whatever it was he was supposed to have said.

I would hope the Muslim on the corner isn't obligated to defend craziness, but I do hope he is courageous enough to condemn Islamofascism. And as I said, if Smoothy fails to speak out against Christian fascism you let me know.

Hello again, Steve:

You're right. I thought it was Sunday. I was wrong. I'll find it though. I DON'T make up stuff.

I'm bummed that you're not as courageous as you think your Muslim neighbor should be. By the way, if you DIDN'T say it before, you just did. YOUR silence on the issue SPEAKS volumes, too.

excon

[smoothy]

Hello again, smoothy:

The craziness is that you make up stuff as you go along. The craziness is your hate.

We've been here before, though. You are NOT original. But, this is such a great country, that we've overcome your kind of hatred and bigotry before. We've remained an INCLUSIVE nation.... We will continue... You are a relic.

excon

You defend illegals that break the laws... you defend terrorists who want to erect a Victory Mosque on ground Zero to honor the 9/11 terrorists, you defend artices that defame Christ with isplays showing him on a Cross fashioned out of excrement and urine... and call that free speech.


But threaten to burn a stack of paper and you like the Muslims go bonkers and you call US crazy? Draw a cartoon of Mohammed and they send the exicution squad to kill you. Yeah... I have trouble grasping how anyone can call THAT normal and reasonible behaviour, and clearly you do it you call US crazy. NO Christian killed that degenerate that created that so called "Art". The same can't be said about the Murdered Cartoonist or Salmon Rusdie who lives in hiding.

Sorry, but your believef might be at home in Berkley or San Francisco, but they are woefully out of tough in most of America.

Bigotry is Islam... Ignorance is refusing to see what Islam stands for and teaches, and has for 1,300 years, its well documented, ignore the lessons of history at your own peril..

You may have a closet Islam Fetish... I however am a Christian and will be until the day I die. And incidentally... I WILL take as many of them out as possible rather than convert by force, which is what they do every place they develop a critical mass. I would rather die a Christian fighting for my beliefs than convert to Islam, either by force or threats of force much less voluntarily.

You again are attacking Christianity while defending Islam and its oppression.

Its Islam that can't peacefully coexist with other faiths... Not Christianity.

[speechlesstx]

I'm bummed that you're not as courageous as you think your Muslim neighbor should be. By the way, if you DIDN'T say it before, you just did. YOUR silence on the issue SPEAKS volumes, too.

Silence on what? I don't know exactlky what you want me to speak out against, but the way you've framed it is, Smoothy doesn't speak out against the flip side of Islamic fascism so I should speak out against Smoothy. I can only assume you're referring to Christian fascism and I was unaware that it was a problem. If it isn't a problem, why should speak out against Smoothy for something for which he has no reason to speak out? See how logical I am?

If on the other hand, you just want me to speak out against bigoted, hateful, so-called Christians like Jones and Phelps I have, I am, and I will continue to do so. Otherwise, I see you and Smoothy handling things just fine between you. If he's THAT bad, I'm sure the mods at AMHD will put an end to it and meanwhile, I'll continue to speak for myself on this particular forum and let others do the same.