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Jul 29, 2010, 11:01 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
What that liberal dude just said.
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Jul 29, 2010, 11:09 AM
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Conservation is a very conservative concept. I refuse to let the liberal greenscammers coopt it as their own.
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Jul 29, 2010, 11:12 AM
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Hello again, tom:
Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt and all that. But, had you guys CONTINUED in that tradition, it WOULDN'T have been picked up by the left.
Nonetheless, the environment doesn't care about the politics of those who save it. Welcome back.
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Jul 29, 2010, 11:17 AM
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I never left . I am not someone who champions TR . If I had my way his face would be sand blasted off Mt Rushmore. But the championing of national parks was the right thing to do. You will find that many of the so called 'Robber barons' played a significant role in their formation also.
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Jul 29, 2010, 12:12 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
What that liberal dude just said.
Of course I'm cautiously optimistic, I posted it for perspective. The reports coming back now should somewhat alleviate your fears of our impending extinction due to this oilpocalypse.
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Aug 12, 2010, 10:15 AM
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Aug 18, 2010, 06:47 PM
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I'd like to relate some items about the disaster the appeared in an industry publication.
1. MMS granted BP a series of permits on 14-15 April that allowed BP to install a cheaper single walled pipe.
2. On April 20, BP's executives cam on board and celebrated the safety record of the rig. At the same time Halliburtan was aboard trying to cement the well.
3. Readings indicated that it wasn't holding, but a second test said it was. The test showed "a very large abnormality".
4. Although the pressure was still rising, technicians were withdrawing mud and replacing it with seawater. Mud effectively holds down the gas and oil.
5. As they were injecting seawater they observed a large jump in pressure from oil and gas rising in the well. The rig exploded.
6. When the techs received approval to operate the blowout preventer, they discovered it had no hydraulic power.
The article appeard to be suggesting that complacency, substandard engineering, weak project management and improper installation come back to bite you in the end.
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Sep 7, 2010, 04:48 PM
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Sep 7, 2010, 08:36 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
For microbes, I see the question of dispersants like the question about DDT, it takes a long time to see the effects as the toxins climb the food chain
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Sep 8, 2010, 02:27 AM
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Yes... long term it became clear that the complete ban of the use of DDT was a terrible mistake that cost millions of human lives.
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