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    Jun 11, 2010, 12:14 PM
    Us-china treaty article 19
    Hi Tax Experts, I am a Chinese. I came to US on 5th April 2010 on J-1 visa. Last year, I spent 4 months in China and 8 months in Japan. Our Foreign National Tax Technician told me that I cannot benefit from tax treaty between US and China, because I stayed the major of last year in Japan. She also told me I can benefit from tax treaty between US and Japan. I am just wondering whether this is correct. Thank you very much.
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    Jun 15, 2010, 02:36 PM
    Liu:

    What country were you in when the J-1 visa was issued? If Japan, what was your status in that country (visitor, student)?
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    Jun 18, 2010, 04:35 AM

    Thank you for your message.
    My J-1 visa was issued in Japan. When I was in Japan, I worked for the university. The status was professor.
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    Jun 18, 2010, 12:09 PM
    If you were considered a resident of Japan when the visa was issued, then the Japan-U.S. tax treaty applies.

    However, if you status as a professor made you a NON-resident of Japan (similar to how the U.S. treats visiting porfessors), then your residency remains with China and the U.S.-China Tax Treaty would apply.
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    Jun 20, 2010, 09:30 AM

    I also told Our Foreign National Tax Technician this. But she said that there is a rule in US-china treaty. She said although I am a citizen of China, I spent 365 days in Japan and I entered US directly from Japan, I must be consided as a resident of Japan. She also said that if I want to get the US-China treaty, I should write a letter to IRS. If the IRS told me that I can get the US-China treaty, she will help me to apply.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 02:11 PM
    Again, the key issue is your resident/non-resident status while in Japan, and that is driven by your visa status and the purpose of your visit.

    As a visiting professor in the U.S. you would be considered to be a non-resident if you came under a J-1 visa. If the Japanese government treated you as a non-resident, then the status applies for your visit to the United States and the U.S.-China Tax Treaty applies.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 04:03 PM

    Thanks for your answer.
    Because our Foreign National Tax Technician persists in her interpretation and taxes my income, the only thing I can do is file Form 1040NR with Form 8833 and request a total refund of all federal and NC withholding taxes under Article 19 of the U.S.-China Tax Treaty from IRS.
    Is that right?
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    Jun 22, 2010, 08:31 AM
    That is correct, and I am not surprised by the institutional interpretation. I have run across such intransigence in the past.

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