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    #101

    Jun 8, 2010, 11:18 AM

    Have you ever tried to organize a community?
    Lead.. no .I have been involved in community projects both inside and outside government and have worked in various campaigns

    He lists his accomplishments as trying to find jobs for laid off steel workers (unsuccessfully) . He tried to organize a network of community churches (he was advised by one of the pastors that he actually should attend church first and that is when he began attending Trinity United ). But his biggest victories followed. He expanded the summer job program and he was able to get some asbestos removed from an old housing project (Altgeld Gardens) . Yes something to add to a very thin resume.
    By then he determined he was wasting his time being a community organizer .So he enrolled in law school.

    Now do I think he is a capable organizer ? Of course . His campaign for the Presidency proved that . But I think he lives for the campaign and gets bored with the job. That is why he moved on so frequently during his rise. He never actually stayed around long enough to accomplish anything .
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    #102

    Jun 8, 2010, 11:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He never actually stayed around long enough to accomplish anything .
    Says the man who is neither a lawyer nor a senator. LOL!
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    Jun 8, 2010, 11:36 AM

    I stand by it too. He was only Senator long enough to have a cigarette break and to find the men's room.
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    #104

    Jun 8, 2010, 11:44 AM
    There's a reason why no one takes you seriously here:

    Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    State Senator: 1997–2004
    U.S. Senator: 2005–2008
    What have you accomplished?
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    #105

    Jun 8, 2010, 12:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    he lives for the campaign and gets bored with the job.
    You're wrong. His problem is that he tries too hard to make everyone happy and still hasn't realized he will never be able to do that. He should have been a member of this site for at least three years before running for president.
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    #106

    Jun 8, 2010, 12:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You're wrong. His problem is that he tries too hard to make everyone happy and still hasn't realized he will never be able to do that. He should have been a member of this site for at least three years before running for president.
    Ah! That's be really good! :D
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    #107

    Jun 8, 2010, 01:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    There's a reason why no one takes you seriously here:

    Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Let's narrow that down to the one you can answer for, YOU don't take him seriously.

    What have you accomplished?
    I don't know about tom, but I can build a shopping mall with a pocket knife and a Q-tip. Obama's main accomplishment is campaigning, he never stopped. By now he should have stopped the rise of the oceans and healed the planet.
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    #108

    Jun 8, 2010, 02:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I can build a shopping mall with a pocket knife and a Q-tip.
    How do you know you can? Have you tried? Post photos.
    Obama's main accomplishment is campaigning, he never stopped. By now he should have stopped the rise of the oceans and healed the planet.
    No, that's Gore's job. And ours. Obama has other items on his agenda.
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    Jun 8, 2010, 02:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    How do you know you can? Have you tried? Post photos.
    Sigh, should have engaged the sarcasm font.

    No, that's Gore's job. And ours. Obama has other items on his agenda.
    Uh, no. His ascension to power was "the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal." He said so himself. All that oil belies the claim though don't you think?
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    #110

    Jun 8, 2010, 02:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    He said so himself.
    Please cite your source.
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    #111

    Jun 8, 2010, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Sigh, should have engaged the sarcasm font.
    In other words... you have... nothing.
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    #112

    Jun 8, 2010, 02:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    In other words....you have....nothing.
    Wondergirl, when I'm not obviously being sarcastic (or stealing from movie lines) I'm always prepared to back it up. You shouldn't get ahead of things here...

    Obama's Nomination Victory Speech In St. Paul

    Last paragraph. And for your viewing pleasure.

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    #113

    Jun 8, 2010, 03:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Wondergirl, when I'm not obviously being sarcastic (or stealing from movie lines) I'm always prepared to back it up. You shouldn't get ahead of things here...
    I meant the pocket knife and Q-tips.
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    #114

    Jun 8, 2010, 03:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't know about tom, but I can build a shopping mall with a pocket knife and a Q-tip.
    You think that compares to graduation from Yale, being a lawyer and a senator? Really? That's why you guys whine on anonymous discussion boards all day, it's all you can accomplish.
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    Jun 8, 2010, 04:11 PM
    Looks like you have found the perfect scapegoat, a politician who doesn't know when not to take responsibility in a crisis
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    #116

    Jun 8, 2010, 04:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I meant the pocket knife and Q-tips.
    I answered that here.
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    #117

    Jun 8, 2010, 04:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You think that compares to graduation from Yale, being a lawyer and a senator? really? That's why you guys whine on anonymous discussion boards all day, it's all you can accomplish.
    Have you ever tried to build a shopping mall with a pocket knife and a Q-tip? Do you have a sense of humor? And how exactly does the fact that we're not Obama disqualify us from stating our opinion? He's a narcissistic community organizer that apologizes for his country when he's not dithering about how to exploit a crisis instead of solving one (or voting present).
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    #118

    Jun 8, 2010, 04:30 PM
    Chris Matthews is nattering on and on now about how Obama should talk with BP's CEO (the one who's always smiling), not to the "little people." If I wanted to know something about a public library, I would not talk with the director; I would go straight to the employees. The director sits in an ivory tower; the employees deal with books and patrons day to day, minute to minute.
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    #119

    Jun 8, 2010, 04:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    (or voting present).
    "Voting present" is peculiar to a few states, including Illinois. It means, "Not good enough to vote yes on. Go back and fix it, or you will get a no for the final vote."
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    #120

    Jun 8, 2010, 04:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    He's a narcissistic community organizer
    Actually, no, he's not narcissistic. If I diagnosed him, I wouldn't label him with that.

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