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    TennBrian Posts: 3, Reputation: 1
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    May 29, 2010, 07:10 PM
    How can I use an older 3 wire 220 circuit for a 4 wire hot tub
    Can I somehow use an existing 3 wire 220 volt circuit to power a 4 wire hot tub? Running a new 4 wire circuit back to the main panel will be long and difficult. I have nearby access to an old 3 wire sub panel once used for an air conditioner. This original circuit is missng the ground wire.
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    May 29, 2010, 07:14 PM

    Dought the wire is big enough to work on the tub
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    May 29, 2010, 07:18 PM

    You MUST have a dedicated ground wire AND a neutral for a 4-wire feed, and in most instances the ground MUST also be insulated.

    You absolutely cannot use a 3-wire feeder for a 4-wire hot tub.
    Also, Josh is right. What size is the old wire and what size is needed for the tub? It is doubtful that an old A/C line is that big.
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    May 29, 2010, 07:32 PM

    The wires are big enough, 6 AWG at least, originally used for either a central A/C unit or heat pump. That shouldn't be a problem Could I run a separate ground wire either through the attic or crawl space?
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    May 30, 2010, 04:56 AM
    Sorry, but no,

    Quote Originally Posted by TennBrian View Post
    Could I run a seperate ground wire either through the attic or crawl space?
    A new 4 wire cable must be installed.
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    May 30, 2010, 06:06 AM
    I apologize for pressing the point, but what difference can it make if the ground wire makes the trip to the sub panel a different way, as long as it's properly connected to both panels? I know it's not the most professional of installations, but I'm trying to avoid making a long run of expensive cable through and under concrete.

    I suppose, ultimately, this conversation all boils down to following the code.
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    May 30, 2010, 08:22 AM
    Exactly,

    Quote Originally Posted by TennBrian View Post
    I suppose, ultimately, this conversation all boils down to following the code.
    I hear what your saying, and I understand the concept, but I cannot suggest or recommend a practice that specifically is not allowed by Code.

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