[mvallo]

My fiancé committed fraud with my engagement ring. Now his ex wants to impound it, because he purchased with money he owed her

[ChihuahuaMomma]

Please explain. How did he commit fraud? Can she prove that he owes her money? She cannot "impound" your ring just because he owes her money.

[mvallo]

He bought me the ring with a bonus that he was court ordered to give to his ex as a property division. He reported it stolen x5, but was arrested before he received any money. His ex found out and now wants to freeze his assets including MY RING

[ChihuahuaMomma]

That makes more sense. Why would you want to keep a ring that represents dishonesty, theft, and $$ that he owes his ex? Why would you want to marry someone that steals, lies, and commits crimes? I think there are deeper issues here...

[mvallo]

The ring is worth $70,000 and I really love this man. I think I can change him with the help of the lord

[ChihuahuaMomma]

Who cares what the ring is worth? Is it worth your dignity? Why would you want to marry someone that isn't perfect in your eyes? I personally would never marry someone that I felt the need to change. I also just got engaged and I wouldn't change ANYTHING about my Fiancée. And he worked hard for the money that he paid for my ring. It wasn't owed to anyone and was rightfully his.

[J_9]

I think I can change him with the help of the lord

Never ever be in a relationship where you think you can change a person.

[JoeCanada76]

FIRST Time to hand over the ring.

SECOND Time to rethink about marrying this man.

THIRD You can not change anybody except for yourself and how you deal with this situation.

[Fr_Chuck]

She said the 70,000 first, sounds more that is the reason,

But yes, she can get a court order freezing all of the property of his. Many courts would include a ring purchases with stolen money.

Again, keep the man if you want a crook and theft and trouble, but give the ring back.

Also if you know he is guilty and knew he was doing fraud, you could be considered a party to the crime

[ChihuahuaMomma]

Chuck, that's where I was just about to go. Stay with him and you might BE an accessory instead of just wearing one. This ring obviously is the reason for you to want to change this man. If my fiancée bought me a $70k ring and cheated on me, I'd throw the sucker in his face and walk and never look back.

[mvallo]

Oh no, I knew nothing about the fraud. He even told police we got engaged AFTER he reported the ring stolen, so the police wouldn't ask me questions.
So.. you guys don't think a man can change?

[ChihuahuaMomma]

So, you know about it now and still want to marry him...

You lied to the police, that's the start of getting yourself into trouble because of who you are married to. You aren't even married yet and he is already bringing you down.

Of course people can change, BUT someone cannot change someone else if that person doesn't want to change.

This relationship sounds like a failure from the start. Give the ring back, move on.

[AK lawyer]

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So..you guys don't think a man can change?

That's not an appropriate question for the "law" forum. Go to "relationships" or something.

What, by the way, is your "law" question?

[mvallo]

I listened to his ex who told me that he was a swindler and a philanderer. Apparently he is still dating the girl she divorced him over the first time and has done the " I am going to change" routine on her so many times. She could quote him precisely, including his crying, begging and violent shaking, like he is going to decompensate in front of you!
I guess if it looks like a duck...
I am going to take the ring to an attorney and ask whether I should give it back to him, or hand it over to her, and move on! Thanks everyone for your input!

[ChihuahuaMomma]

Mvallo, that's great to hear. I wish you all the best in your new life and in finding a person that will treat you like a smart wonderful woman you are.