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    Apr 22, 2010, 08:43 PM
    South Park
    Last night Comedy Central would not let South Park say the name Mohammed or show him. If you ask me the Terrorists won. But July 2001 there was episode 504 the Super Best Friends They "showed" Mohammed!! So what do you say did the terrorist take away our free speech? I know SP is an offensive show but to me they represent free speech in America.

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    Apr 22, 2010, 09:14 PM

    They were just scared, But yes, that means the terrorist won
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    Apr 23, 2010, 02:43 AM

    When Salman Rushdie got the fatwa in 1988 for writing about Mohammed the libs all rallied in support of him. Many took the bold step of reading it publicly out loud in symbolic support.

    These days you can in the name of art do the most vile things to Christian images. You can even get state funding for it. But Mohmammed depicted in any way seen unfavorable provokes a violent reaction by jihadistan.

    The popular culture cowers at such a reaction and appeases . Menawhile the Pope makes a controversial quote from the past about Mohammed and is condemned even though by all appearances it is accurate.

    "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached" (Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus )

    This condemnation of the Pope came even though in the next paragraph he completes the quote (the part the dinosaur media left out )

    God is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death....

    Comedy Central is spineless. They apparently pick low hanging fruit and cower when confronted .
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    Apr 23, 2010, 04:42 AM

    Yep, I mentioned yesterday that Comedy Central caved. I guess they're not as edgy as they thought they were, the spineless twits.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 04:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Yep, I mentioned yesterday that Comedy Central caved. I guess they're not as edgy as they thought they were, the spineless twits.
    So what is edgy to you?
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    Apr 23, 2010, 04:54 AM
    The Southpark creators issued a statement:

    In the 14 years we’ve been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn’t stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn’t some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle’s customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn’t mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We’ll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we’ll see what happens to it.
    Kudos to Matt Stone and Trey Parker for calling out the network. Meanwhile, Glenn Reynolds has the ultimate commentary on the situation:

    Obviously, Christians — and Sarah Palin fans, and lovers of My Mother The Car — should take heed of this incentive system our modern media is creating. Don’t want things you treasure satirized? Just issue a “prediction” and — voilà! Meanwhile, note how entirely real radical Muslim threats and violence are treated as just part of the weather — something you have to adapt to — while nonexistent Tea Party violence is an existential threat to the Republic.

    But here’s a warning of my own: Those who have no backbone will do the bidding of those who do.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 05:03 AM
    It's easy to be edgy when you're a stand-up comedian and you are your own business. It's different when you are under the banner of a corporation that has shareholders. However Tim & Eric are pretty out there. :) and Robot Chicken does some wild satire
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    Apr 23, 2010, 05:10 AM

    How ironic that the conservative is slamming the corporation while you defend it.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 05:12 AM
    How did I defend it? They make a business decision, that's all. If you don't like it unsubscribe from the channel. Adding a bleep made no difference to my life, did it to yours?
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    Apr 23, 2010, 05:20 AM
    Don't let the terrorists win!

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    Apr 23, 2010, 05:34 AM

    Yep, really dissapointed that they bleeped out all the mohammed refferences.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 05:50 AM

    Didn't this already happen with the episode that made fun of Family Guy? Mohammad in a salmon helmet.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 05:53 AM

    Yes, this is the second time Comedy Central caved to the Jihadists.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 06:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    They were just scared, But yes, that means the terrorist won
    Hello:

    When, in response to 9/11, your own president attacks the Constitution taking away the freedoms he said the attackers hate us for, THAT is when the terrorists won.

    Comedy Central ain't doing nothing YOU right wingers didn't do.

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    Apr 23, 2010, 06:09 AM
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    Comedy Central ain't doing nothing YOU right wingers didn't do.
    If that is so, why aren't you joining us in saying no more instead of just whining about Bush?
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    Apr 23, 2010, 06:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    If that is so, why aren't you joining us in saying no more instead of just whining about Bush?
    Because with Comedy central you can just change the channel or no longer carry the channel. Not so with a political party in power.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 06:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    If that is so, why aren't you joining us in saying no more instead of just whining about Bush?
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, in the last few years, you didn't hear me saying no more to torture, indefinite detention, extraordinary rendition, illegal spying, or military tribunals?? I guess not.

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    Apr 23, 2010, 06:50 AM

    That Lego cartoon was hilarious.
    The South Park issue reminds me of the murder of Theo Van Gogh in the Netherlands. He was a filmmaker who allegedly defamed Islam, funny how telling the truth about radical Islam is offensive to Muslims. The West has to stop caving in to Muslims or they will think they can rule our society. Political correctness is destroying the West, look how bad England has become. Read Mark Steyn's article in this week's Maclean's.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 07:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Because with Comedy central you can just change the channel or no longer carry the channel. Not so with a political party in power.
    So because Democrats are in power excon can't protest government policies? That makes a lot of sense... but totally in line with the view that dissent is good under Bush, bad under Obama.
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    Apr 23, 2010, 07:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, in the last few years, you didn't hear me saying no more to torture, indefinite detention, extraordinary rendition, illegal spying, or military tribunals??? I guess not.
    Sure, but what does that have to do with saying no MORE taking away our freedoms?

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