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    #281

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:58 AM
    Oh OK. I guess I'll just keep on living I guess. Thanks for allowing me to live.
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    #282

    Mar 31, 2010, 06:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Oh ok. I guess I'll just keep on living I guess. Thanks for allowing me to live.
    Since you are in the Canadian system... just hope YOU never need something now that they tell you to wait 6 months or more to get... it happens all too often where rationing is a way of life. And all socialised systems ration care.

    Never seems to be a problem... until its YOU that needs it. Then your perspective will change really fast. You will never think... damn, I have cancer, I have to wait 8 months for my turn to get treatment... IF I live that long, but its OK... at least we have a socialised system and that goes with it.

    You will be saying why can't I get what I need right now... just like the rest of us that oppose that system. And under our current system you would get.

    See, I've been in the ER for life threatening stuff before... stuff that if I had to wait hours or days much less months would have ended my life. And once to a private practice where the doctor dropped everything to attend to me... if he had made me wait 20 minutes I would have died as a teenager. And that was the time I would have needed to reach the clossest ER had it happened in the evening.

    Yeah... touchy topic for me... from my own experiences.

    Two of those were for Anaphylactic shock.
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    #283

    Mar 31, 2010, 06:33 AM

    Hello again, smoothy:

    I appreciate your input. You have, at the very least, demonstrated WHO makes up the tea party movement, and WHAT drives you. It's clear, that you guys are mad as hell. You've also demonstrated that your anger isn't based on fact, but rather on a hysterical hatred for anything Obama. This hatred is driven by the right wing noise machine lead by (you named them), Hannity and the Limp one.

    You've been pretty straightforward so far. Does his race have anything to do with your hatred?

    excon
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    #284

    Mar 31, 2010, 06:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Since you are in the Canadian system......just hope YOU never need something now that they tell you to wait 6 months or more to get....it happens all too often where rationing is a way of life. And all socialised systems ration care.
    I've never had to wait for anything, nor my wife, nor my kids. My parents are doing well, my mom's 2 knee surgeries were attended by very caring people. I don't have to deal with quotes or paperwork or payment plans or premium increases. I am happy. You are mad at everything, it's your way of life. I feel sorry for you.
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    #285

    Mar 31, 2010, 06:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    Oh, look. Here he goes again trying to prove that traditional U.S. allies were only allies of the former administration. Britain, Poland, now Israel: who's next, Canada? Japan? Australia?

    White House 'puzzled' over Netanyahu storm
    We've already offended Canada this week. While visiting to try and persuade our northern neighbors to stick around in Afghanistan a while longer, Hillary rebuked them for who they invited to their own conference.
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    Mar 31, 2010, 06:48 AM

    Ex several thousand self-identified Tea Party followers converged on Searchlight Nev Sunday . Moms and Dads all quiet, respectful, suited up for a stroll in the desert sun ,a weekend barbecue,a school fair was the atmosphere .

    The Democratic partisans plan to smear the Tea Party as violent extremists or 1950s style racists .But that stumbles when confronted with the facts. Mr. and Mrs.America ,concerned about over taxation and government wasteful spending has awaken them from their slumber .

    Nothing Frank Rich says can change that reality.
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    Mar 31, 2010, 06:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So where did you read that? I've seen some of the "emails" you've posted before so I'm cautious about your use of facts.:rolleyes:
    Your constant sniping gets wearisome.

    Various people say things and you don't agree with and you demand proof.

    Since you are the one disputing, it is up to YOU to post evidence to the contrary.

    Actally, I think it was the Heritage Foundation that published the report.
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    #288

    Mar 31, 2010, 06:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    You've also demonstrated that your anger isn't based on fact, but rather on a hysterical hatred for anything Obama.
    Is this all you're about any more, repeating the current leftist meme? I guess you missed my post above showing a tale of 2 rallies - one left, one right, a week apart. I guess you were asleep during the Bush years when so many publicly fantasized (and even made movies about) the assassination of Bush, Cheney and Co.
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    #289

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Is this all you're about any more, repeating the current leftist meme?
    No he's describing Smoothy. Please go through this entire thread and read smoothy's posts.
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    #290

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Ex several thousand self-identified Tea Party followers converged on Searchlight Nev Sunday . Moms and Dads all quiet, respectful, suited up for a stroll in the desert sun
    Hello again, tom:

    I referred only to their ANGER. I made NO suggestions that smoothy OR any of tea pepole would ACT out.

    They're STILL angry, though, and I think race has something to do with it. Otherwise, wouldn't SOMETHING they're angry about have a basis in reality?? There's no reality to death panels, socialism and government takeovers... There just isn't.

    I think the Limprods and the Hannity's are in charge of that bunch, and I think race IS at the bottom of it.

    excon
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    #291

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    No he's describing Smoothy. Please go through this entire thread and read smoothy's posts.
    Ex prefaced that with "You have, at the very least, demonstrated WHO makes up the tea party movement." You now stand corrected, again.
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    #292

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Ex prefaced that with "You have, at the very least, demonstrated WHO makes up the tea party movement."
    Yea, him as an example.
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    #293

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:17 AM

    No matter why so many people do not like him, they simply do NOT like him.

    Someone wrote a little thing something like this:
    I do not love the Doctor Fell,
    The reason why, I cannot tell
    But this I know, and know full well
    I do not love thee Doctor Fell.

    Now for a President of this country, this is a bad thing. The man who is supposed to bring the country together is the most divisive president ever.

    Our society is headed toward a serious, maybe even violent clash unless some agreement can be made.

    It ain't going to happen, but for the good of the country, Obama should step down. Maybe the next pres can be a better unifier. Biden seems less polarizing.
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    #294

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Yea, him as an example.
    NK, that only helps make my point.
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    #295

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    NK, that only helps make my point.
    At what point did ex or smoothy talk about fantasizing about the assassination of Obama? You brought it up not ex. I assume ex was referring to smoothy's blind hysteria and using it as an example of tea party members. You brought up people wanting to kill the president, I don't know why you did that.
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    #296

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Otherwise, wouldn't SOMETHING they're angry about have a basis in reality???
    I would ask the same thing about you, Frank Rich and every intolerant nitwit that's been running with this tea partiers are racists nonsense.
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    #297

    Mar 31, 2010, 07:51 AM

    Ex , that makes as much sense as Frank Rich painting everyone opposed to the Health care legislation as being racist ,homophobic ,mysogynists .
    Op-Ed Columnist - The Rage Is Not About Health Care - NYTimes.com
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    #298

    Mar 31, 2010, 08:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Now for a President of this country, this is a bad thing. The man who is supposed to bring the country together is the most divisive president ever.
    OR, does that really say something about the (divisive) people who have made no effort to like him and refuse to see any good in what he does?
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    #299

    Mar 31, 2010, 08:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    OR, does that really say something about the (divisive) people who have made no effort to like him and refuse to see any good in what he does?
    Bingo.
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    Mar 31, 2010, 09:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    OR, does that really say something about the (divisive) people who have made no effort to like him and refuse to see any good in what he does?
    I'd ask the same about Bush haters.

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