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Mar 4, 2010, 09:35 PM
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Czars
Okay. Carve this turkey up.
OBAMA'S CZARS
CZAR
Czar Position
Summary
Richard Holbrooke
Afghanistan Czar
Ultra liberal anti gun former Gov. Of New Mexico. Pro Abortion and legal drug use. Dissolve the 2nd Amendment
Ed Montgomery
Auto recovery Czar
Black radical anti business activist. Affirmative Action and Job Preference for blacks. Univ of Maryland Business School Dean teaches US business has caused world poverty.. ACORN board member. Communist DuBois Club member.
Jeffrey Crowley
AIDS Czar
Radical Homosexual.. A Gay Rights activist. Believes in Gay Marriage and especially, a Special Status for homosexuals only, including complete free health care for gays.
Alan Bersin
Border Czar
The former failed superintendent of San Diego . Ultra Liberal friend of Hilary Clinton. Served as Border Czar under Janet Reno – to keep borders open to illegal’s without interference from US
David J. Hayes
California Water Czar
Sr. Fellow of radical environmentalist group, “Progress Policy”. No training or experience in water management whatsoever.
Ron Bloom
Car Czar
Auto Union worker. Anti business & anti nuclear. Has worked hard to force US auto makers out of business. Sits on the Board of Chrysler which is now Auto Union owned. How did this happen?
Dennis Ross
Central Region Czar
Believes US policy has caused Mid East wars. Obama apologist to the world. Anti gun and completely pro abortion.
Lynn Rosenthal
Domestic Violence Czar
Director of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Vicious anti male feminist. Supported male castration. Imagine?
Gil Kerlikowske
Drug Czar
Devoted lobbyist for every restrictive gun law proposal, Former Chief of Police in Liberal Seattle. Believes no American should own a firearm. Supports legalization of all drugs
Paul Volcker
E conomic Czar
Head of Fed Reserve under Jimmy Carter when US economy nearly failed. Obama appointed head of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board which engineered the Obama economic disaster to US economy. Member of anti business “Progressive Policy” organization
Carol Brower
Energy and Environment Czar
Political Radical Former head of EPA - known for anti-business activism. Strong anti-gun ownership.
Joshua DuBois
Faith Based Czar
Political Black activist-Degree in Black Nationalism. Anti gun ownership lobbyist.
Cameron Davis
Great Lakes Czar
Chicago radical anti business environmentalist. Blames George Bush for “Poisoning the water that minorities have to drink.” No experience or training in water management. Former ACORN Board member (what does that tell us?)
Van Jones
Green Jobs Czar
(since resigned).. Black activist Member of American communist Party and San Francisco Communist Party who said Geo Bush caused the 911 attack and wanted Bush investigated by the World Court for war crimes. Black activist with strong anti-white views.
Daniel Fried
Guantanamo Closure Czar
Human Rights activist for Foreign Terrorists. Believes America has caused the war on terrorism. Believes terrorists have rights above and beyond Americans.
Nancy-Ann DeParle.
Health Czar
Former head of Medicare / Medicaid. Strong Health Care Rationing proponent. She is married to a reporter for The New York Times.
Vivek Kundra
Information Czar
Born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including labels and news releases. Monitors all private Internet emails. (hello?)
Todd Stern
International Climate Czar
Anti business former White House chief of Staff- Strong supportrer of the Kyoto Accord. Pushing hard for Cap and Trade. Blames US business for Global warming. Anti- US business prosperity.
Dennis Blair
Intelligence Czar
Ret Navy. Stopped US guided missile program as “provocative”. Chair of ultra liberal “Council on Foreign Relations” which blames American organizations for regional wars.
George Mitchell
Mideast Peace Czar
Fmr. Sen from Maine Left wing radical. Has said Israel should be split up into “2 or 3 “ smaller more manageable plots”. (God forbid) A true Anti-nuclear anti-gun & pro homosexual "special rights" advocate
Kenneth Feinberg
Pay Czar
Chief of Staff to TED KENNEDY. Lawyer who got rich off the 911 victims payoffs. (horribly true)
Cass Sunstein
Regulatory Czar
Liberal activist judge believes free speech needs to be limited for the “common good”. Essentially against 1st amendment. Rules against personal freedoms many times –like private gun ownership and right to free speech.
John Holdren
Science Czar
Fierce ideological environmentalist, Sierra Club, Anti business activist. Claims US business has caused world poverty. No Science training.
Earl Devaney
Stimulus Accountability Czar
Spent career trying to take guns away from American citizens. Believes in Open Borders to Mexico . Author of statement blaming US gun stores for drug war in Mexico .
J. Scott Gration
Sudan Czar
Native of Democratic Republic of Congo. Believes US does little to help Third World countries. Council of foreign relations, asking for higher US taxes to support United Nations
Herb Allison
TARP Czar
Fannie May CEO responsible for the US recession by using real estate mortgages to back up the US stock market. Caused millions of people to lose their life savings.
John Brennan
Terrorism Czar
Anti CIA activist. No training in diplomatic or gov. affairs. Believes Open Borders to Mexico and a dialog with terrorists and has suggested Obama disband US military
Aneesh Chopra
Technology Czar
No Technology training. Worked for the Advisory Board Company, a health care think tank for hospitals. Anti doctor activist. Supports Obama Health care Rationing and salaried doctors working exclusively for the Gov. health care plan
Adolfo Carrion Jr..
Urban Affairs Czar
Puerto Rican born Anti American activist and leftist group member in Latin America . Millionaire “slum lord” of the Bronx , NY. Owns many lavish homes and condos which he got from “sweetheart” deals with labor unions. Wants higher taxes on middle class to pay for minority housing and health care
Ashton Carter
Weapons Czar
Leftist. Wants all private weapons in US destroyed. Supports UN ban on firearms ownership in America.. No Other “policy”
Gary Samore
WMD Policy Czar
Former US Communist. Wants US to destroy all WMD unilaterally as a show of good faith. Has no other “policy”.
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BossMan
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Mar 4, 2010, 11:56 PM
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Doesn't it strike you as odd that the USA is using the term Czar considering what it actually means?
Tsar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 Originally Posted by Chambers dictionary
tsar, czar or tzar noun 1 historical the title of the former emperors of Russia. 2 a despot or tyrant. tsardom noun. tsarism noun. tsarist noun, adj.
ETYMOLOGY: 16c: Russian, from Latin Caesar the family name of the earliest Roman emperors.
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Mar 5, 2010, 03:52 AM
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Yes it is a misnomer of sorts. Given that they are given marching orders from the President ;but keeping in the spirit of the Russian model ;the President's flunkies should really be called 'Commissars'.
A political commissar was a high-ranking functionary at a military headquarters who held coequal rank and authority with the military commander of the unit. Political commissars were established to control the military forces by the Communist party. No military order might be issued which did not have the prior approval of both the commander and the commissar.
Commissar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The President's purpose in using these individuals is to bypass the Constitutional authority of Congressional oversight. They are not subject to the same"advise and consent" provisions that cabinet officers are subject to and the President can indeed withhold their testimony from relevant Congressional committees if he so chooses.
Of course personal envoys and advisors have been used many times in our history . But ,as is typical of this President ,he uses the precedence to a point of distortion... a clear abuse of power. edited below
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Mar 5, 2010, 04:19 AM
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I dispute the characterization of Paul Volcker . He was instrumental with the Reagan economic team in ending the vicious stagflation that was prevelent in the 1970s. It was Paul Volcker who fixed Jimmy Carter’s mess.
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Mar 5, 2010, 05:34 AM
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Ultra Member
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Mar 5, 2010, 05:42 AM
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What part of the content do you dispute ?
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Mar 5, 2010, 06:17 AM
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 Originally Posted by Curlyben
It strikes me odd that Ronnie "raygun" had the first US czar. Maybe shows his true colors.
Or was it "tricky d!ck"
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Mar 5, 2010, 06:44 AM
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That is not quite correct... not by a long shot. Reagan had one and was hardly the 1st .
Roosevelt had 12 positions he designated czars and 19 people filled those positions .
Truman had 6 ,Ike 1,LBJ 3,Nixon 3,Ford 1,Carter 2,Reagan 1,GHW Bush 2,Clintoon 7 .
I admit I have to retract my original comments about the number of appointments being unprecedented .
GW Bush also had too many appointees designated as "czars "(35) .
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Mar 5, 2010, 08:21 AM
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 Originally Posted by galveston
Richard Holbrooke
Afghanistan Czar
Ultra liberal anti gun former Gov. Of New Mexico. Pro Abortion and legal drug use. Dissolve the 2nd Amendment
 Originally Posted by tomder55
what part of the content do you dispute ?
Hello tom and gal:
The very first one. It's just flat out WRONG. Doesn't bode well for the rest, does it?
excon
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Mar 5, 2010, 08:40 AM
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Did not have time to do the research on all the points. I contended the points about Volcker but did not search all them.
Given that Richard Holbrooke was never Governor of NM your point is well taken.
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Mar 5, 2010, 09:58 AM
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Tom, I stand corrected, I was relying on my memory (which may be a little cloudy from dodging one Czar back in the day). That's when I first recalled the hearing the term. "Drug Czar"
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Uber Member
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Mar 5, 2010, 10:18 AM
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 Originally Posted by parttime
That's when I first recalled the hearing the term. "Drug Czar"
Hello part:
It IS funny that the right wing makes a big deal out of Obama's czars. But, if they'da won the election, they could have put the torture fascist in, the spy fascist, the tax cut fascist...
But, they didn't win. They lost. So, all they can do is snivel...
excon
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Mar 5, 2010, 10:21 AM
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But they do it so well excon.
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Ultra Member
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Mar 5, 2010, 10:24 AM
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Repeat after me... it's Bush's fault.
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Mar 5, 2010, 10:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
repeat after me ......it's Bush's fault.
repeat after me... I only whine when liberals do something I don't like.
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Ultra Member
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Mar 5, 2010, 12:41 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
repeat after me ......it's Bush's fault.
That's not quite correct. I place the blame on reagan, that was the start of the downward spiral
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Ultra Member
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Mar 5, 2010, 02:12 PM
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Yeah 20 years of prosperity and winning the Cold War that had been waged for 40 + years
What a slacker!
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Mar 5, 2010, 02:26 PM
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Tom, I don't know where your from, I remember in the 80's unemployment averaged a point or two less than it is now, and as for winning the war with russia, would'a happen if I had been in charge, turn over there ever few generations.
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Mar 5, 2010, 04:01 PM
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Part ,
A year before Reagan the Russians marched into Afghanistan ;they supported proxy wars in Africa ,Central American and Latin America.
It was the prospect of having to match Reagan's SDI funding (what you deride as "raygun" ) that broke the back of the Soviets.
BTW that raygun evolved into the Patriot missile system successfully used in the Gulf War and the anti-missile systems currently in development that will be the best defense against rogue regimes like North Korea with nukes.
NK
You conveniently forget the many times I was critical of the Repubilicans in the last decade..
Repeat after me... I ankle bite without providing any context or
substance to a debate
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Mar 5, 2010, 05:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello part:
the tax cut fascist....
excon
Now, what would be wrong with that??
Let those that work keep more of their money? Hmmmmm... sounds like a great idea :D
G&P
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