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Feb 15, 2010, 07:35 AM
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I'm coming into this late so I don't know what happened prior to today (with the exception of a few posts) BUT this is against the Law in NY - I was one of the people who very actively campaigned to stop the practice of animals as prizes anywhere, any time - and that includes rabbits at fairs and carnivals.
Write your State Legislators or, in Canada, your rep.
Arrests ARE made in NY when the law is broken.
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Feb 15, 2010, 07:57 AM
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This is happening in the USA Judy. The show is Toddlers & Tiaras, by the network TLC.
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Feb 15, 2010, 10:03 AM
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 Originally Posted by thisisit
This is happening in the USA Judy. The show is Toddlers & Tiaras, by the network TLC.
I realize it's in the US - I was simply stating what the law in NY is and suggesting that anyone who objects to animals as prizes write to their Legislators and insist that a law be passed banning the practice OR that the existing law (if there is an existing law) be enforced.
Live animals as prizes are not limited to TLC shows - I protested the practice at fairs, fund raisers and so forth. A gun raffle was recently shut down where I live because they were auctioning off a hunting dog - and the State Police arrived.
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Feb 15, 2010, 01:30 PM
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Great idea Judy. Not one that's available to me, but still, great idea. I doubt the US government would care what a Canadian has to say. I will write though, who knows? ;)
I'm just appalled that this is going on. These are living breathing beings and to give them away as prizes is wrong. A dog is a very personal choice, not something to be entered into lightly and not something that should be foisted on anyone.
This is not the only time I've seen this being done on that show. It's shocking. The thing that bothers me most is that I know for a fact that no breeder would offer puppies as prizes. These puppies are most likely puppy mill pups or from a backyard breeder, two practices which I'm also trying to put an end to.
There's so many things wrong with this. It makes me so mad and sad. Only the puppies will suffer. It's not right. :(
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Feb 15, 2010, 03:24 PM
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Alty, if you re-read what I posted I did suggest that Canadians (eh?) write their reps - I wasn't referring only to Canadians.
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Feb 15, 2010, 04:03 PM
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 Originally Posted by Altenweg
This is not the only time I've seen this being done on that show. It's shocking. The thing that bothers me most is that I know for a fact that no breeder would offer puppies as prizes. These puppies are most likely puppy mill pups or from a backyard breeder, :(
Likely they're some sort of advertising comp from a big chain pet store. That's how most TV prizes are acquired, I'm given to understand.
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Feb 18, 2010, 07:16 AM
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I haven't read all the posts, so this may have already been brought up, but did you see the kids with the FAKE teeth, and padded bra's? Like these kids are 7!
Sorry had to rant!
I also am with you on the puppy prize, I am shaking my head thinking of all the puppies out there that are going to be given away again or dropped of at the shelter because the parents are too bust making there CHILDREN look like play boy bunny's. What happened to kids being kids? Making mud pies? Forts? Barbies and dolls, and easy bake ovens? Am I really that old that I am appalled at the idea of letting a 6 year old wear purple eyeshawdow, fake lashes, fake tans, high heals string bikinis, and fake hair?
Sorry I know I am ranting about the pagents them sleves, but it's all disgusting. And I also agree that it promotes an un healty point of view on self image. I hope you can contact these pagent people, sadly I don't think that it will do anything, but if there's anything I can do, let me know!
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Feb 19, 2010, 06:01 AM
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 Originally Posted by shazamataz
Because bunnies eat their own poo ;)
Yep, they digest it twice.
Really??
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Feb 19, 2010, 08:08 AM
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Info I didn't need first thing in the AM - blech!
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Feb 19, 2010, 02:48 PM
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 Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell
I haven't read all the posts, so this may have already been brought up, but did you see the kids with the FAKE teeth, and padded bra's?? Like these kids are 7!!
Sorry had to rant!
I also am with you on the puppy prize, I am shaking my head thinking of all the puppies out there that are going to be given away again or dropped of at the shelter becasue the parents are too bust making there CHILDREN look like play boy bunny's. What happend to kids being kids? making mud pies? forts? barbies and dolls, and easy bake ovens?? Am I really that old that I am appalled at the idea of letting a 6 year old wear purple eyeshawdow, fake lashes, fake tans, high heals string bikinis, and fake hair?
Sorry i know I am ranting about the pagents them sleves, but it's all disgusting. And I also agree that it promotes an un healty point of view on self image. I hope you can contact these pagent people, sadly I don't think that it will do anything, but if there's anything I can do, let me know!
I'm with you Aurora. In fact I started a thread about pageants a while back. No one was interested in a discussion, so it died a slow painful death.
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Feb 19, 2010, 02:48 PM
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 Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
Info I didn't need first thing in the AM - blech!
LMAO! Truth is always stranger then fiction, and grosser. ;)
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Feb 21, 2010, 03:43 PM
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I also find these pageants for young girls very creepy. When I was a kid, we acted our age. Even well into high school, our lives outside of school were mostly about baseball, video games, heavy metal and Saved By The Bell on Saturday mornings, that must make me sound old but I liked those days better.
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Feb 21, 2010, 03:49 PM
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 Originally Posted by earl237
Saved By The Bell on Saturday mornings, that must make me sound old
It's official, I'm a freakin' Stegosaur. Saturday Mornings were Astro Boy and Space Ghost.
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Feb 21, 2010, 04:00 PM
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Saved by the Bell, Alf, Mr. Squiggle... all the good shows.
ASTRO BOY!
You're not a Stegosaur Cats, you're just awesome... you watch astro boy :D
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Feb 21, 2010, 06:09 PM
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I thought I was going to get beat the other day, I was at a major hotel and they had just finished a pagent I guess, a bunch of 5 to 12 year olds dressed like street walkers in my opinion. I was asked by one lady ( guess bragging about her child) what I thought, and I told her exactly what I thought, that it was shameful and I was sorry she could not be charged with child abuse, well guess that's why I should just answer online.
But here where I live it is illegal to give dogs or cats as prizes at all.
** does not list gold fish but it should also.
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Dogs Expert
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Feb 21, 2010, 06:21 PM
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It really is sad to see those girls dressed the way they do. Luckily inmy town we do not have pagents of any kind. Opps wait, we have the miss pumpkin patch, which is not based on looks at all, but how well you grew a pumpkin. They have mr. pumpkin patch as well, but no one particiapates. But they do a lot with the 4h. For the boys. I think those gold fish that they give away at fairs is cruel as well Fr_Chuck, although I would rather see those feeder fish go the bunnies they used to give away. One year, (I was still very young) I remember they were giving away budgie birds as prizes. I remember a bunch of kids trying to set them free, but I think their wings were clipped.
I refuse to bring my daughter to the circus's they hold. It really pains me to think of those animals lives. I will not support things like that!
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Feb 21, 2010, 06:33 PM
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Well I hate those fish for another reason, two years ago my son won one, in a pastlic bag, so off to the pet store and a tank, gravel, filter, food and more latter ( about 100 dollars) that free fish was costly.
And now of course it has grown ( my fault at guess) now it is a 50 gallon tank, many fish, plants and a giant filter. ** I did get a beta fish that I had always wanted and it is sitting by me right now in the old small tank.
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Dogs Expert
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Feb 21, 2010, 06:44 PM
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Did you see my picture of Gordon? In the members pets page? That was a .58 cent feeder gold fish.
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Pets Expert
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Feb 21, 2010, 07:32 PM
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I have a 27 cent feeder fish that the pet store promised me wouldn't live more then 2 weeks. Five years later he's been through 3 tank changes and he's still growing.
He'll outlive all of us.
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