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        (f(fx)) = 2x +4   when f(X) = 1... how do I solve this
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        not 100% clear on this one but I'll take a shot :) 
 
I think you intended to write: 
f(f(x))=2x+4 
solve when f(x)=1 
so I'd just substitue 1 for f(x) 
f(1)=2x+4 
which is simple then: 
f(1)=2*1+4=2+4=6 
 
hopefully someone else will agree or disagree with this result
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        I'll have to disagree.  You made a mistake.  You substituted 2x for 1, when fx=1.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        I'm not going to try to defend my answer since I was never really confident in it to begin with. What would you suggest for an answer?
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        I think you're right asterisk.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				not 100% clear on this one but i'll take a shot :) 
 
i think you intended to write: 
f(f(x))=2x+4 
solve when f(x)=1 
so i'd just substitue 1 for f(x) 
f(1)=2x+4 
which is simple then: 
f(1)=2*1+4=2+4=6 
 
hopefully someone else will agree or disagree with this result 
			
		 
	 
 You substituted 1 for x, when really f(x) is 1.  It's just a common mistake.  Unless you did something I'm not aware of, then I would be the one who is incorrect.
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        He substituted f(x) as 1, the OP stated f(f(x)), so that would be f(1), so he's right there I believe 
 
EDIT: on second thoughts I'm not so sure
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        No no no. Listen.  On the right side of the simplified equation, where it said 2x+4 he substituted x for 1 so that the equation was 2*1+4, but x does not equal 1.  F(x)=1
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        My thought process was as follows: 
substitute 1 for f(x) 
f(1) 
then I just did what I would typically expect to do when I see f(something), substitute something for x.  
again, I agree that this doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. I made some assumptions since I didn't see a better solution. No one has any thoughts on how else this might be solved? It seems like we can all agree that we get to f(1)=2x+4. but what's next? Maybe substituting f(x)=1 is the wrong thing to do. Ideas?
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        Ok, here's the way I see it.  It said F(x)=1, or f*x=1, or fx=1.  So if you were substituting for f(x) or fx, you would get 1, but you wouldn't get x=1; only fx=1. So by saying f(x)=f(1) you are incorrect. 
 
Because it is taking so long for me to explain, I'll do it myself. 
 
(f(fx)) = 2x +4 when f(X) = 1 
 
if fx=1, f(fx)=f(1) 
 
f=2x+4... f(1)=1*f=f 
 
In terms of "f", f=2x+4 
In terms of "x", x=-f/2+2 
 
That's as much as I can get out of it. 
 
But I have a question for the original asker.  In what terms should the question be answered in?
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        you can't multiply around the f like that, f(x) means a function of x, it isn't a variable. 
 
I agree that the OP probably typed it wrong :p
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        Ahhh. I see where our thoughts differ now. 
You interpret f(x) as f*x but I interpret f(x) as the function f with input x. 
I agree with your result if f(x) is intended to be f*x but f(x) is just so universally "a function 'f' with input 'x'" that I have a hard time imagining that it isn't.  
 
I think we all agree that the OP needs to clarify but I think at this point we're the only ones who still care. :)
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        I couldn't agree more.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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