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    Oct 26, 2009, 09:20 AM

    And I heard that Bush had planned to establish a Christian theocracy. Obama already invokes Jesus more often that Bush so the evidence says we need to stop this Obocracy before it's too late.
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    #22

    Oct 26, 2009, 09:40 AM

    Spit... Yanks in 6
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    Oct 26, 2009, 10:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Spit ....Yanks in 6
    In 5. That's my prediction.
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    Oct 26, 2009, 10:22 AM

    After this series when they talk about the new Yankees Stadium they are going to call it "The House that Howard Destroyed" PHILLIES IN 6!! WE OWN CC.
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    Oct 26, 2009, 10:25 AM

    Sorry guys, I'm pulling for the Phillies... in 4. How 'bout them Cowboys though?
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    #26

    Oct 26, 2009, 11:05 AM

    Speech, Where did Miles Austin come from??
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    Oct 26, 2009, 11:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Speech, Where did Miles Austin come from?!?!
    Same place Romo did, nowhere. I just hope they can keep it going, 421 yards and 4 TD's in 2 games? Unbelievable.
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    #28

    Oct 26, 2009, 04:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Have you heard that Glen Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990? I'm not saying he did it, I'm just asking questions. plus he has not denied it or provided the paperwork to exonerate himself. All we want is proof. What is he trying to hide? The MSM seems to be covering up the story of Glenn Beck allegedly raping and murdering a girl in 1990.
    With posts like this, you shouldn't accuse anyone of being off the wall.

    Besides, Glen Beck is not the president of the USA.

    Frankly, I'm not a birther, but I will admit that I would welcime any LEGAL metod of removing Obama from office ASAP.
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    Oct 26, 2009, 05:20 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Frankly, I'm not a birther, but I will admit that I would welcime any LEGAL metod of removing Obama from office ASAP.
    What does it matter, he is a citizen isn't he? Not some foreign king! If the majority voted for him and it appears they did, as distinct from earlier elections, then you have to wait a while then you can vote him out.

    As I understand it you have a leglisature and if anything becomes law the majority of those folks have agreed to it before Obama signs it. So why blame Obama when it is those faceless persons who have done the job. Where I come from we speak of a government having a mandate which comes from policies which the electorate has been informed of before election of the government. All of this debate would suggest that a mandate doesn't exist, but surely that isn't so. You knew what you were getting, a social reformer and the people wanted that
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    Oct 27, 2009, 02:33 AM

    What does it matter, he is a citizen isn't he?
    Our Constitution makes it clear the President must be a NATURAL BORN citizen. It keeps interlopers from Australia from becoming President.

    That is why the "birthers " make the issue about his birth certificate. But it is a non-issue in the case of the President ,as been demonstrated countless times here .
    You knew what you were getting, a social reformer and the people wanted that
    As much as the leftys want to try to spin it ;a 52% majority does not give them a mandate to gut our system and make sweeping transformations .
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    Oct 27, 2009, 03:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Frankly, I'm not a birther,
    Oh yes you are - you started this thread didn't you?
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    Oct 28, 2009, 07:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Oh yes you are - you started this thread didn't you?
    Don't be presumptious!

    I don't know what they do or don't have.

    I wish them success, just as I wish success to those who want to impeach Obama.

    I want this man back in Chicago where he can practice that brand of politics without endangering the whole nation.

    The present situation illustrates that we should NEVER give everything to one party.

    Any party!

    If one party has both houses, then we should never give them the White House. Or vice-versa.

    That is the ONLY way to assure bi-partisan government, and holds legislation to a minimum, which is a good thing.
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    #33

    Oct 29, 2009, 02:51 PM

    Now it's up to two million that Obamie has spent defending his right to not show his original birth certificate the populace.

    I also have to wonder about that comment Michelle Obama made about how Bammy's mother was not married at the time he was born. Her comment was back in July 2008. It was to show how much Bammy knows how living in semi poverty was like. Hilarious! What will she think of next to "help" out Bammy? Hard to tell as she's busy shopping at junk stores for her clothes and the kid's clothes.
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    #34

    Oct 29, 2009, 03:58 PM
    Hey twinkie, I feel the same way about Glen Beck's rape and murder of a girl in 1990. He has already tried to suppress evidence. What has he got to hide? Just show the evidence that you didn't do it - but of course he can't do that. Disgusting!
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    #35

    Oct 29, 2009, 04:28 PM

    I just read that Judge Carter in California has dismissed the latest case Barnett v. Obama. It seems that Judge Carter hired a brand new law clerk yesterday and you'll never guess where this guy worked prior to joining Judge Carter - at the law firm where Obama has pumped more than $1.5 million in defending his birth certificate! Nope. Not making this up. Just Google for it and you'll see I'm not kidding about this horrible travesty of justice.

    I wonder just how much $$$$$$ Judge Carter was paid for this "decision"? Probably quite a lot, quite a lot.

    It's downright nauseating to see just what lengths Obama will go to "silence" someone to keep them from uncovering the truth about him. Money can certainly buy quite a lot of "silence". Federal judges are not exempt from being bribed errrr handed a "new law clerk" who just happens to have a large sack of cash held in a sack behind his back just waiting to plop it on your desk when you're distracted on the phone.

    Frankly, though, I am certainly NOT surprised at this new outcome. I'm surprised that it took this long to happen.
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    #36

    Oct 29, 2009, 04:29 PM

    Barack swore to uphold the US Constitution.

    On that basis, any honest court would convict him of perjury!
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    Oct 29, 2009, 04:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Barack swore to uphold the US Constitution.

    On that basis, any honest court would convict him of perjury!
    Uphold the Constitution. More like hold the Constitution for hostage or ransom or have the Constitution hold their hands up while he robs them. He's already robbed this country of it's money. Now what else does he have planned?
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    Dec 31, 2009, 12:31 PM

    FYI update. (from an email)

    VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES SUPREME COURT

    AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans
    for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College .

    Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro,
    Received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the
    School. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit
    Brought by the group in the Superior Court of California .

    The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded
    A fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student
    Must claim foreign citizenship. This document
    Would seem to
    Provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the
    Evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty
    Grim.
    The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and
    Qualification to serve as president.

    When reached for comment in London , where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister
    Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue.

    Britain 's Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, "Obama
    Eligibility Questioned," leading some to sepeculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit
    To theU.K.

    In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on
    Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New
    Jersey.

    This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits
    Brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending.
    This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12
    States for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still
    Ongoing
    But that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the
    Matter.

    While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah
    Over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question:

    What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi?

    So how did a young man who arrived in NewYork in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come
    Up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later? And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta,
    And Karachi, what passport was he
    Offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

    The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions,
    They must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather
    Short and simple one.

    Q: Did he travel
    To Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
    A : Yes, by his own admission.
    Q: What passport did he travel under?
    A: There are only three possibilities.

    1) He traveled with a U.S.Passport,
    2) He traveled with a British passport, or
    3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

    Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
    A: No.. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. StateDepartment's "notravel" list in
    1981.
    Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

    If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii
    As he claims.

    And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship
    He held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his
    Indonesian step-father in 1967.

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