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    Dec 19, 2009, 08:26 PM
    Electric range position with respect to sink
    Since an electric range is not normally attached to a GFCI circuit, is there any limitation as to how close a range can be located to a sink?

    I would think it would have to be outside of an arm's length if an electrical breakdown should occur, but don't recall ever seeing an explicit restriction.

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    Dec 19, 2009, 08:36 PM

    Tom , I don't have an electrical code book but others here probably do. Ask your local building inspector for what he'd OK in new construction
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    Dec 19, 2009, 08:40 PM

    There is no restriction at all. They can be right next to each other.

    If the range is wired and installed properly any "electrical breakdown" causing a fault would trip the breaker.
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    Dec 19, 2009, 08:43 PM

    Thx for the fast response! I appreciate it!
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    Dec 19, 2009, 08:50 PM

    Stanforty are you answering strictly from your electrical code book or experience within the building trades
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    Dec 19, 2009, 09:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ballengerb1 View Post
    Stanforty are you answering strictly from your electrical code book or experience within the building trades
    Both.

    I have never heard of even a local requirement for a range to have any required separation from a sink area. Nor have I ever heard of any requirement for a 120/240v- 30, 40 or 50 amp receptacle needing GFI protection.

    That said, there may be some overly strict area that does require it. It's just in over 20 years in the trade and nearly ten years visiting electrical boards I haven't heard of it.

    Have you?
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    Dec 20, 2009, 06:47 AM
    Stan is correct, there is no Code requirement about spacing between a range and a sink.

    Good trade practice and wise kitchen design will recommend that there be counter space between a sink and a range, preferably 24 inch at least. More if possible, less if necessary.

    See photo of combination kitchen, is that close enough? And GFI is not required.
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    Dec 20, 2009, 07:20 AM

    LOL! Nice find. I have seen those things.
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    Dec 20, 2009, 07:29 AM
    I thought you would get a kick out if that.

    People need to keep in mind that GFI protection is required for all kitchen counter receptacles which are required for SMALL APPLIANCES, hence, small appliance circuits.
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    Dec 20, 2009, 10:24 AM

    LOL! Looks like an EasyBake oven! Does it include the lightbulb for the oven 'heat'?

    As always, your reply is topnotch. Thanks!
    Tom

    BTW, is there a searchable version of the NEC? The online version at NFPA is not exactly the best tool for finding answers to questions like this.
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    Dec 20, 2009, 11:12 AM

    The CD Rom cost $. Finding stuff by thumbing through the table of contents and turning the pages is a real PITA.

    Got a kick out of the kitchen. Just got in from shoveling 15+" of snow. The snow blower is buried in the shed. The leaf blower worked great cleaning off the car. It worked pretty good blowing snow yesterday too.

    Can't wait for the 8. x 11 epaper reader by plastic logic that will be announced in the first week or so of January at the CES. I think Barns and Noble will excusively carry it and ATT&T will be the wireless provider.
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    Dec 20, 2009, 11:23 AM

    Yeah, an e-reader (kindle etc) would be useful to carry all the code books except that, as far as I know, there are no reference books that have been converted to Kindle or any others. The e-readers would allow you to annotate, search, bookmark, etc. And, as you say, with the wireless connections, would make it easy to update...

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    Dec 20, 2009, 11:52 AM

    I've been following the reader for a while. It will support a variety of documents including .PDF and Office formats: Plastic Logic
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    Dec 20, 2009, 12:18 PM

    I never considered a reader for work stuff. If I could get all my code books and some catalogs into one of those things my van would have a lot more room. :)
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    Dec 20, 2009, 12:34 PM
    LOL light bulb.


    Since the Code is copyrighted, anything on the net is restricted.

    You can purchase a CD with the Code, completely searchable, but once you bought it you own it and do as you please, without publishing in it or otherwise violate any copyright laws.

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