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excon · Sep 27, 2009, 02:28 PM

Hello:

If you're busted for stealing, how can the government seize the money and still make you pay it back?

excon

twinkiedooter · Sep 27, 2009, 03:46 PM

Because. They write the laws so they can do anything their little hearts desires. That's why. How do you think the police department gets new cars or new stuff?

excon · Sep 29, 2009, 07:56 AM

Hi twink:

Even if they write the laws, it's STILL stealing. They can't fool me with their pretty uniforms and stinkin badges. They're crooks and bullies!

excon

JudyKayTee · Sep 29, 2009, 09:14 AM

What? Are you saying money was taken/seized and "disappeared" and the person accused was made to repay it?

excon · Sep 29, 2009, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

What? Are you saying money was taken/seized and "disappeared" and the person accused was made to repay it?

Hello Judy:

No. I'm saying the money was SEIZED by the government and it didn't disappear at all. They just kept it as proceeds from an illegal enterprise, or some such language. I can be more precise if you like... But, I'm suggesting that the government gets to KEEP the seizures it makes, and STILL requires the defendant pay it back as restitution...

I HOPE you can prove me wrong. I'd LIKE to hate the cops a little less. But, I think that's what happens.

excon

PS> We had a post here recently about somebody who stole a million or so $$$. The government seized it, and she's stuck with a million $$$ restitution. Of course, she could be lyin... But, I think that's what happens.

JudyKayTee · Sep 29, 2009, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello Judy:

No. I'm saying the money was SEIZED by the government and it didn't disappear at all. They just kept it as proceeds from an illegal enterprise, or some such language. I can be more precise if you like... But, I'm suggesting that the government gets to KEEP the seizures it makes, and STILL requires the defendant pay it back as restitution...

I HOPE you can prove me wrong. I'd LIKE to hate the cops a little less. But, I think that's what happens.

excon

PS> We had a post here recently about somebody who stole a million or so $$$. The government seized it, and she's stuck with a million $$$ restitution. Of course, she could be lyin... But, I think that's what happens.

I can only speak for the Feds when I worked for them - money seized, brought across the border, a result of theft/fraud, was returned to the victim via the Police. We never had a complaint that the victim didn't get it back so if the Police took it, I certainly don't know about it. If the "thief" had to also make restitution in Canada, that was beyond "our" scope.

I'm not talking about vehicles and merchandise seized - I'm talking specifically about proceeds from theft/fraud and the like.

Yes, I'd like to change your mind about Cops. I would feel the same way if you hated (or, minimally, intensely disliked, any group. Cowboys or sheep herders. Motorcycle riders, for example). I don't dislike all excons. Some are better than others. :D

I've dated Cops, partied with Cops, blah, blah, blah - I know that doesn't change your mind about Cops and may very well change your mind about me so I'll leave it there. Keep in mind when I worked for the Feds I was a sort-of Cop. But I was a good one and I only weigh between 105# and 110# so I stayed away from your famous doughnuts.

excon · Sep 29, 2009, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

I've dated Cops, partied with Cops, blah, blah, blah - I know that doesn't change your mind about Cops and may very well change your mind about me so I'll leave it there.

Hello Judy:

You never hid you cop side from me. But it never discouraged me... I just picture you naked, with your gun belt on. It STILL gives me shivers.

excon