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    Sep 23, 2009, 10:26 AM
    Barometric Pressure cause severe head & body aches?
    I'm trying to understand why on some days I have severe headaches and body aches that won't go away for about 24 hours. It feels like it is on very humid days and I am curious if the air pressure also may contribute to this?

    Thank you

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    Sep 23, 2009, 10:58 AM

    This article, "Weather, Climate and You" which I had a copy of, bit don't anymore will shed a lot of information. Weather, Climate, and You.

    It does suggest something with humidity and temperature causing aches and pains. I just forget if it's rising or falling temperature/humidity

    Since I suffer from the same problem, contact be via PM if you would like.

    I did some "research" on my own to attempt to figure out what caused my migraines. In reality, I believe it's related to the magnitude of the second derivative of barometric pressure vs. time.

    If you don't understand derivatives, then I'll use this analogy.

    If barometric pressure were distance, the 1st derivative of distance vs. time is speed and the second derivative is acceleration.

    So, I'm sensitive to how fast the barometric pressure is changing (like acceleration). I'd like to do the analysis again when there is a lull a headache phase and another lull. I only did my analysis for 4 days with no headache and 10 days or so with very nasty ones. I had to buy the barometric pressure vs time data.

    One guy I contacted over the net whose wife got migraines and he was able to predict them. He got data from where I live and predicted mine.

    The short answer for me is that I get migraines between 0 and 48 hours before rain. Once the rain starts, I typically start to feel a little better. Like a cold there may be a 1-2 day recovery period.

    Blood pressure and heart rate are affected. Not much works, unfortunately. My cocktail consists of Neurontin, Fiorinal, Ativan, Percoset and Oxycontin. I'm currently trying Benecar, a blood pressure drug, at my suggestion.

    I have autonomic nervous system damage and there are hereditary components of major skin diseases such as ichtheosis, acne and psoriasis. I'm curious if you have any of these components.
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    Sep 23, 2009, 11:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleStupid View Post
    This article, "Weather, Climate and You" which I had a copy of, bit don't anymore will shed a lot of information. Weather, Climate, and You.

    It does suggest someting with humidity and temperature causing aches and pains. I just forget if it's rising or falling temperature/humidity

    Since I suffer from the same problem, contact be via PM if you would like.

    I did some "research" on my own to attempt to figure out what caused my migraines. In reality, I believe it's related to the magnitude of the second derivative of barometric pressure vs. time.

    If you don't understand derivatives, then I'll use this analogy.

    If barometric pressure were distance, the 1st derivative of distance vs. time is speed and the second derivative is accelleration.

    So, I'm sensitive to how fast the barometric pressure is changing (like acceleration). I'd like to do the analysis again when there is a lull a headache phase and another lull. I only did my analysis for 4 days with no headache and 10 days or so with very nasty ones. I had to buy the barometric pressure vs time data.

    One guy I contacted over the net whose wife got migraines and he was able to predict them. He got data from where I live and predicted mine.

    The short answer for me is that I get migraines between 0 and 48 hours before rain. Once the rain starts, I typically start to feel a little better. Like a cold there may be a 1-2 day recovery period.

    Blood pressure and heart rate are affected. Not much works, unfortunately. My cocktail consists of Neurontin, Fiorinal, Ativan, Percoset and Oxycontin. I'm currently trying Benecar, a blood pressure drug, at my suggestion.

    I have autonomic nervous system damage and there are hereditary components of major skin diseases such as ichtheosis, acne and psoriasis. I'm curious if you have any of these components.
    Hey kiss - no - none of the additional ailments that you mentioned (acne, psoriasis, etc) -- just an achey body and a pounding headache.
    Thanks for the reply... this is a recent phenom for me the last two places I've lived - live at the beach (jacksonville beach) and where I lived previously was in a valley (louisville ky).
    Was in chicago for 15 years... never happened.
    Guess I'll keep taking the unisom when I get them and literally just knock myself out... any good internet sites on getting the prescriptions you referenced? I've purchased them over the internet before and it usually takes a month from india.
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    Sep 23, 2009, 11:46 AM

    I didn't say you had to have the skin conditions. I want to know if your relatives ave any.

    I'd probaby start with Benecar and monitor BP. Then I'd try to add neurontion 300 mg up to 3600 mg/day for a preventive. Fiorinal is a staple: It's a mix of a barbituate sedative, aspirin and cafeine thus not suitable neat bedtime.

    Oxycontin 10 mg, taken 30 mg at a time will relive symptoms for 12 hours or so.

    Percoset 7.5-500 is 7.5 mg of Oxycontin combined with 500 mg of Tylenol - Lay off it.

    I missed Zomig which is a cerebral blood vessel reducer. Only works when the migraines are too intense and I also have to resort to ice packs.

    Ativan is like your Unisom, an anti-anxiety, and is only taken at bedtime.

    All drugs are taken as needed and all but Benecar and Neurontin are controlled substances.
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    Sep 24, 2009, 08:12 PM

    When I lived in South Florida I had constant migraines caused by the barometric pressure. Since I moved North I don't have them as often if at all now. You apparently are very sensistive to any change in barometric pressure and Florida sure has it's share of barometric changes. If you lived in South Florida you'd have even worse than migraines.

    I take 3mg of melatonin at night and sleep like a rock. Melatonin helps me sleep and is something your body needs anyway.

    Now I don't take anything more than an occasional Excedrin for my headache. The combination of aspirin, tylenol and caffiene works for me. Very similar to Fiorinal which I took the 11 years. I had to quit taking that as I was afraid of permanent liver damage.

    KISS - I would definitely recommend/suggest that you have a liver function test done (blood test) to see if your liver is okay after taking that combination of meds for years. Fiorinal can cause headache bounceback (as I personally learned). Fiorinal can/will damage your liver.
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    Sep 24, 2009, 08:20 PM
    KISS I was treated by a neurologist for migraines using a combo of Elavil at night and Inderal during the daytime. The Elavil knocked me out at night. The Inderal was as a beta blocker. Within 9 months I was "cured" of my migraine problems. You might want to look into those 2 drugs as using Oxy for migraines is not really a cure but a bandaid type treatment for you. When I started my new medications I was at a higher level and then had the meds reduced over a period until I didn't have to take them any longer - and I had daily, and I do mean daily headaches from hell. I couldn't take enough Fiorinal to stop the pain.
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    Sep 25, 2009, 06:36 AM

    Twinkie:

    I don't think aspirin, caffeine or butabatal; the ingrediants in Fiorinal are associted with liver damage. Tylenol/aceteminophin is.

    Been on Fiorinal for about 25 years. Rebound only once. Self-fixed. Not fun. I took Fiorinal for a sinus headache. It won't work for that. I didn't know I had one. So, rule now is: "The trigger must be present".

    Headaches are also triggered by some foods: artificial sweetners particularly Neutasweet,;MSG, vinegar, nitrates, and citric acid are also triggers. The later 4 are dose dependent.

    I generally don't like acetamonohin. I'll tolerate it occaisonally. Yes, it's in percoset.

    I've taken Elavil and Inderal, but not at the same time. Elavil cause my blood sugar to spike badly and I was not able to tolerate it.

    Liver function tests are done at least every 6 months because of diabetes.

    Add to the above ailments, insulin dependent diabetes, allergies to ragweed and tree pollen and asthma and you have a real mess. Also include autonomic nervous system damage: Respiration and heart rate don't track.

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