[Alty]

I agree Scott and I'm sorry that I kept posting, I was just hoping he'd move it here, where we can discuss this. Thanks again for moving it.

Zippit, we're all here to help people, we're not here so that people will look up to us.

It seems to me that you're a bit jealous of those with Expert status because you think that an Expert's advice is more accepted then your own. That's simply not true.

To become an expert you have to prove yourself in a particular forum. Many of us have expertise outside of our forum as well. I can only speak for myself but, if someone gives advice and it's good advice, I couldn't care less if that person is an "Expert" or a "Junior" member. We all started as newbies, we all had to learn the ropes and we all had to prove ourselves.

So far all you've done is give mediocre advice, complain, argue, whine and pout. You seem to think that people are out to get you here but really, the only person that's out to get you is you.

You're your own worst enemy because you refuse to go with the flow.

Why not stick to what you know, go to the threads where you can give great advice, don't rock the boat, try to get along with people? Right now I'm back at square one with you. Unlike Scott I did see some improvement. Not a lot, but some. Now I'm thinking that was just a temporary thing because the old Zippit seems to be back in full force.

Also, many times I read your post and sit here at my desk wondering what the heck you just said. I'm not a dumb person, I comprehend the English language very well. You should work on the way you write your posts so that they're easier to understand. How many times have I had to quote you asking "what?"

Just some suggestions, if you really want to stay here and be part of this site.

[zippit]

Looking for acceptance no? Personal ego maybe? But c'mon I have seen ego's get stroked everywhere? Why do you charge for you'r advise? You know it's the best or is worth it,is that not ego?
I will chill out and put myself on a week check..
Good day sir

[ScottGem]

I'm not saying that egos don't get stroked, I'm saying that is not the primary motivation.

And I don't charge for my advice. I only charge if a person wants direct advice via phone. Just another example of how you get things wrong.

[Alty]

looking for acceptance no? personal ego maybe? but c'mon i have seen ego's get stroked everywhere? why do you charge for you'r advise? you know its the best or is worth it,is that not ego?
I will chill out and put myself on a week check..
good day sir

Scott doesn't charge for the advice he gives here, that's only if you want a personal consultation. I don't even accept "gifts" I do this simply because I want to.

As for this ego stroking that you're seeing everywhere, I'd like some examples so that I can respond appropriately.

The fact is, you don't see any of us going on to a thread and saying "Hey, I said that first, I should get the credit!"

You're either here to help or you're here to get an ego boost. If you're here for the latter then you'll be sorely disappointed.

[zippit]

As for this ego stroking that you're seeing everywhere, I'd like some examples so that I can respond appropriately.


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You put those words in my mouth,I didn't say I see it everywhere.

And the examples are there.and the bashing of a newbie that steps on your toes is there as well.
Which is why I made a post that looked into the entire AMHD member list.

If you study the list there is a severe drop off in members in the 350-700 reply. Its like

They fall off the curb right in that area.

Is it because of clicks?

If the numbers are not right you can,call me on it.

[JudyKayTee]

If you are so unhappy with AMHD why don't you move onto some other site that would make you happy?

[zippit]

If you are so unhappy with AMHD why don't you move onto some other site that would make you happy?

This is your advise for me/

[JudyKayTee]

this is your advise for me/

Yes, and it's advice, not advise.

[Alty]

you put those words in my mouth,I didn't say I see it everywhere.

Yes, you did;

but c'mon I have seen ego's get stroked everywhere

if you study the list there is a severe drop off in members in the 350-700 reply. Its like

They fall off the curb right in that area.

Is it because of clicks?

If the numbers are not right you can,call me on it.

I'm not going to go study a list. I don't have time for useless stuff like that when there are people with problems coming here to get help.

Clicks? You may have noticed that we accepted you. You started joining our chat threads and we opened the doors and let you in. So much for clicks.

There are people that come, post once and never return. There are people that come, post 3000 times and then disappear. Then there are the people that stick around, give good advice, enjoy what they do here and the people they do it with.

I'm a lifer, I accepted that long ago. I was almost a one hit wonder, but they lured me back in and now I'm stuck. ;)

The fact is you're too concerned with fitting in, getting recognition and it's affecting the way people are responding to you.

At this point I have to question if you'll ever change enough to be valuable to this site.

[JudyKayTee]

Alty, you left out that we ALL started here as newbies, strangers, unknown to each other. Every one of us either EARNED respect - or didn't. No one came onto AMHD with the express intention of being named an expert - that comes with education, experience, research skills, the ability to read, write, punctuate, spell.

For some people there's the need for attention. They don't last very long.

Come on with attitude, leave with attitude.

[zippit]

There's no big STUDY Alty,
Members are dropping off at a astounding rate in the zone I mentioned?

And NO way was I accepted in chats. are you kidding me?

I just want my membership to serve a lesson you might want to be more open

Clicky

Clik

Clik

[Alty]

Alty, you left out that we ALL started here as newbies, strangers, unknown to each other. Each and every one of us either EARNED respect - or didn't. No one came onto AMHD with the express intention of being named an expert - that comes with education, experience, research skills, the ability to read, write, punctuate, spell.

For some people there's the need for attention. They don't last very long.

Come on with attitude, leave with attitude.

Exactly.

None of us knew each other before coming here.

I admit that we're a close knit group, but we don't exclude people. There are new people coming to this site daily, new people coming to our chat threads daily, new friends being made daily.

I've never had a problem telling it like it is. If a friend on this site gives bad advice I tell them so. If I don't agree with someone, even if it's a friend, I let them know, on the thread, not through PM.

I only give attitude when I get attitude.

[zippit]

OK I'm going to pull my thumb out my A**

Close this thread pleez

[Alty]

theres no big STUDY Alty,
members are dropping off at a astounding rate in the zone i mentioned?

and NO way was i accepted in chats.! r u kidding me?

i just want my membership to serve a lesson you might want to be more open

clicky

clik

clik

Really?

I remember chatting with you on the chat thread. No, I'm not kidding.

I should be more open? How? What more can I do to make you and everyone feel more accepted? Why don't you ask around? You're big on studies, ask others what they think about me, whether I'm open, or "clicky".

Zippit, the truth is that I never judge someone on their "status" here, or the number of posts they have. If the advice is good then it doesn't matter who said it, just as it doesn't matter who said it if the advice is bad. I was a newbie once too. Trust me, I learned the hard way. I jumped in with both feet and stepped on a lot of toes. Then I learned how this place worked, got the flow of things, and now all is well. I still step on toes once in a while, but that's me and most of the people here know that.

I'm generally against giving reddies, I don't dish them out lightly. Usually, when I disagree with someone I quote them and tell them why. Not just for people that I consider friends, but for everyone.

The only time I give a reddie is when the poster has been asked repeatedly to stop their behaviour, or if that person is being abusive or giving very bad, harmful advice.

You're acting like a child. Sorry, but I call them like I see them.

[ScottGem]

this is your advise for me/

Sounded good to me!

This site is a labor of love for many of us. So we do tend to guard the quality of the advice given here to a large extent.

Frequently we get people here who think they are god's gift to the rest of the world. They think they know the best way to run a site like this and the best way to help people. So rather than try to work within the structure and try to fit in, they rub people the wrong way and get jumped on.

Then one of two things happen. Either they learn the facts of participation here and conform to the way this site runs, and they never learn and continue to be ostracized and eventually leave.

So which one are you gong to be?

[JudyKayTee]

Are "we" taking bets? If so, count me in.

[Alty]

This site is a labor of love for many of us

Longest labor I've ever had. ;)

Zippit, the fact is that you have to conform to this site, not the other way around.

You either work within the rules,leave or are forced to leave.

The choice really is yours.

[JudyKayTee]

Sometimes I REALLY miss Starby!

[Alty]

Sometimes I REALLY miss Starby!

I miss her daily.

Someone posted on an old thread in the dogs forum the other day. I was subscribed to it so I went to check it out. There was a post from Starby. Choked me up.

Okay, now you're making me hijack a thread! :(

I'm easily encouraged so don't encourage! ;)

[zippit]

I opt to stay..
Now can we close this fricken thread?