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    Sep 9, 2009, 08:39 AM
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    In how many ways we can choose 8 alphabets from aaaaa bbbb ccc dd e
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    Sep 10, 2009, 04:25 AM
    Here's a start:

    How many ways can we arrange the a's, b's, c's, d'd and e's?

    There are 15 in all, but there are 5 a's, 4 b's, 3 c's, and 2 d's, but only 1 e.

    We can arrange them in ways.

    Actually, this is rather tough. I will have to get back to you. If you even care anyway.
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    Sep 11, 2009, 05:03 PM
    This problem requires counting up the 8-permutations of the multiset

    {5a, 4b, 3c, 2d, 1e}

    Count up the various ways of using these letters and finding an 8-permutation.

    Example: aaaaabbb, aaaabbcc, aaaabbbb, and so on and so on. There are quite a few.


    Here is an example of an easier one:

    Suppose we have S={2a, 1b, 3c}={aa,b,ccc}

    Then, acbc, cbcc are 4-permutations of the set S.

    The total number of 4-permutations would be



    I hope I didn't miss one.

    Your problem is much more involved because there are more ways to form 8 permutations out of that multi-set.
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    Sep 11, 2009, 08:46 PM

    Well, when I saw that post, I thought it was a routine one, but then realised the difficulty :o I'm glad you answered it galactus :)
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    Sep 14, 2009, 05:41 PM
    I doubt if there's much point in posting anything else on this topic for the OP's benefit, but I have something interesting to add for those who are.

    The number of permutations we have can be found from the generating function



    If we look at the coefficient of x^8 we see it's 101. That is how many permutations can be made from aaaaa, bbbb, ccc, dd, e in order to sum to 8.

    Then, each of those can be arranged in this many ways:

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    Sep 15, 2009, 06:51 AM

    I wonder why to took it until x raised to the fifth power.. is that because of the 5 'a's?

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