[N0help4u]

I think she means that she doesn't want them to have to get shocked to learn the fence is there.

[shazamataz]

He will have to be shocked at some point, I mean it's probably good if he does when you are far away. Just make sure if he does get a shock you are not standing right next to him so he doesn't think you are the one that hurt him ;)

Learning the boundary before you even install the fence would be a very good idea, then he may not even stray outside it at all and you can just use the collar for your own peace of mind.

[tickle]

As I said folks. I have Invisble Fencing. The shock is nothing, it is positively low grade. You have to be with your dog when you are training them to know the boundaries.

Learning the boundary before installing the fence will do no good at all. That doesn't encompass the principle of the fence. That will only confuse the dog.

Tick

[shazamataz]

Yeah, the shock would be more of a warning, than an actual jolt.

I think learning the boundary before hand would be of some benefit if you put up a string line or flags.

You have used them before though so if you think it would confuse the dog then I will agree with you, it just made sense to me that way :)

[tickle]

The boundary is determined where the installer can easily put down the ground wire which is done with an appliance that looks likea groundmarker surveyors use.. The wire, which can hardly be seen, is installed about maybe one or two inches under the ground and cannot be detected after its done. If they have to go across driveways, they are equipped to do that two. Mine is across the driveway and back up to the garage.

You tell them where you want it, how big, and they try to accomplish that at the same time going around obstacles. So, my point is, although you walk your dog around a boundary that you think will work, it may end up not exactly as you imagine it. Don't forget, the installer is working by mechanical means that can't be bent to nature, per se.

I rest my case *bowing*

Tick

[tickle]

One more question: The lady who wants to sell it to me said I would have to shve my dog's neck, because he was a husky. Is this true? I was always under the understanding that you were to never ever cut or shave a Sibe's hair!

No, don't shave ! And how is she selling this system. Who will install the wire ? As for never ever shaving, I always had my Samoyed shaved in the summer. They have two coats same as Sibe's. So there is no difference. But no, don't shave a spot on his neck... what tripe

Let me know what kind of fence this is.

Tick

[shazamataz]

I'm definitely leaving this one for Tick, she knows her fences :D

[rex123]

She said the fence was a K-9 corral underground fence. She also said we would be able to put it up ourselves.

[JudyKayTee]

I've posted this before - if you dog has a high prey drive the fence will not stop him unless you shock him senseless. It did NOT stop my GSD and my second dog, a mix (both rescues) got the "light shock" once and was absolutely terrified to go outside. I'm not saying she's a genius (!) but she never, ever understood where the shock came from. We had the fence removed.

As far as shaving, yes, my GSD's neck had to be shaved. The collar either had to be tight enough for the prongs to reach her neck through her coat, causing her to gag, or she had to be shaved. As I said, it didn't work anyway. The shaving is right in the book provided by the installer.

AFTER we had the fence installed I wondered how high the "jolt" was so I tried it on my hand. That was the final straw. I can't imagine getting that voltage in my neck.

Keep in mind that the people selling fencing are doing exactly that - selling fencing.

Maybe it works for other people. I'm not saying that it doesn't. Maybe it didn't work on my dogs because they are rescues and I'm not exactly sure what they experienced before we got them.

But just be very, very careful with Rex!

(How are you otherwise? Miss seeing your name all the time.)

[rex123]

Hey guys sorry to bother you again. But I found a second hand underground fence on Kijiji. I just had another question. The collar that comes with it doesn't look like it would last too long. Is it possible to take the transmitter(device that delivers the correction) off that collar and put it on another one?

[tickle]

She said the fence was a K-9 corral underground fence. She also said we would be able to put it up ourselves.

Their website advises this system is no longer available. I would ask about that. It means some accessories may not be available.

Tick

[Just Dahlia]

I hope it's not too late for my advice, but first you can buy an above ground one that your dog can see and then know where the shock or pin prick is coming from. He will have a visual.

You make it yourself, two strands of wire, one high, one low and then grounded to a piece of rebar. The other end plugged in with low voltage.

You are still going to have a problem with him getting out and not being able to get back in. It happened to my dog a couple times. Having fun chasing a squirrel and them (not thinking) running over the boundary. *pin prick* and then he remembers, but is too scared to go back over it. I found my dog on the other side a couple of times.

It sounds like you are in a rural area if you have neighbors who may shoot your dog. Put some bells on his collar, so maybe they will hear the bells before they shoot.

If you are in the yard with him and there to reinforce when he starts to run, you probably won't have any problem with either method.

EDIT: and no collar on the second method, they just touch it and know.

[rex123]

Their website advises this system is no longer available. I would ask about that. It means some accessories may not be available.

tick

Actually there is a new one I'm looking into buying it is a PetSafe smart in-ground pet fencing system.